Make the Relic and Empyrean WSs Questable

I agree. Myrkr needs to be questable. It is a WS designed for TP speed weapons, sitting on a max DMG weapon.

I of course also support nerfing all empyrean wses so they are all as terrible as myrkr. (Lets say WAR WS gives 400 static HP cured and that is all. That way we can all run around with crappy empyreans.)

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Originally Posted by svengalis

What does a quest consist of?

Whenever you are doing Magian trials or upgrading a Relic weapon you are basically doing a quest. It's just that in these cases it is multiple quests.

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i think ur misunderstanding the OPs intent. He wants to make the WS questable without actually getting the weapon.

No.

The WS's are part of a reward for putting in some time and effort. Making them questable would deem the weapons less valuable.

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Originally Posted by Auredant

i think ur misunderstanding the OPs intent. He wants to make the WS questable without actually getting the weapon.

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Relic Ws can already be easily used on the "Fake" relic weapons, it's only once every 13 WSs but most of them suck anyway, and you don't need anymore then that, the Emp WSs are already easy to get from the WOE weapons upgrade, if they made them questable, there would be absolutly no reason to even do WOE ones at all, seriously, How easy do you want it here.

NO, These WS don't need to be questable, NO, i don't want to watch full retarded peopel walking around in full MNK relic saying "look at my VS!"

and they most certainly don't need to be nerfed, if you can't work for your stuff, then don't play this game, sheesh.

All this does is spit in the face of people who actually put the time to work for thier weapons. for "i want my stuff in the laziest way possible, waaaa"

quest: do WS you want to unlock 500+ times on specifed monster
empyrean/relic weapon equiped during the quest: WS get the aftermatch

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

two posts up man :\

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TearV, you sure do count very well!

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

if he wants a taste of relic ws, but cant be arsed to get arelic, get the utility abyssea one. its not like the skills are that great, but eh, most of them are decent dmg weapons.

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thats what i am doing, someday SOMEDAY i will have the power to use all ws! gogog WoE weapons

Allow me to ask you this: if most of the relic ws suck so bad then what is the problem with allowing everyone to obtain it? You did your work, you got your weapon and everything that comes with it; dmg, ws, and the resulting aftermath.

I have the mythic ws for blu, drg and pld. But I never completed the weapons, so I dont get their dmg bonus or aftermath effects that result from using the ws. Its the same thing for relics, the point was never the relic ws dmg the point was always the bonus effect resulting from using the ws.

You still get your bonus effects, it's not like letting us get the ws is gonna destroy your bragging rights. You still get to say "I get stuff you don't get".

I think Anethia just finished this discussion. People can keep arguing though, but it won't make them right.

Heh I'm rather surprised this thread is still being bumped considering the majority think this is a stupid idea. Most of them think that having these WS be questable means all the noobs would get it, even though they could just make the quest to get them insanely hard. Like say get the WoE weapon then go out and get 1.5k WS points. For Relic could make it so you need to do 1.5k WS points from the Fake Relic Weapons in Abyssea, or use the stage 1 relic weapon. But whatever, arguing that these should be questable when most ppl think its stupid is pointless since they have to be "unique to the ppl who put in the time twords the weapon".