Suggested Adjustments to Legion

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Originally Posted by Mahoro

My point was it hasn't been adopted by the majority of the playerbase. I'm looking at Nyzul early evening on a weekend on Lakshmi, and there are 0 parties there. It might not lie as barren as Legion does, but it's still pretty barren.

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Totally agree, I have to say, accessibility is the thing that lack the most after the great spectacular blockbuster that is Abyssea. Everything post abyssea is not very fun, accessible, or enjoyable. With no new content coming, the game is now stagnate again and become a gear collecting activity and grinding for weapons. Nothing else to do but grind grind and grind. Some of the new contents are extremely bad - risk/reward ratio are not even enticing enough for people to do them. Once you finish all the missions, max few jobs merit wise and got your empty gears +2, pretty much time to take a break from the game for 6-8 months till they come with another new content.

There is so much left to do in this game. I'm bored atm, so I'm going to go gear my drg PROPERLY, via healing breath gear, ws gear, tp set, NOT JUST +2 set. If you do a job properly and don't play 15 hours a day, this game should keep you well occupied. Each relic for each job should take 3 months minimum for the average player. Having +2 on a job shouldn't make you feel accomplished :/ Do legion because it offers something new and fun. Do I play basketball or football or halo because it offers rewards? NO, I play it for fun. Get the damn point of the game. It's not a job.

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

NO, I play it for fun. Get the damn point of the game. It's not a job.

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This is the mentality of pink geared players. And people like you will never understand what we are saying because it requires thought.

Yes, it is a "game." as you say, but being able to see the big picture in terms of what is broken in legion is the point of this thread. Keep your useless drg out of this thread.

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This is the mentality of pink geared players. And people like you will never understand what we are saying because it requires thought.

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You say this like there's something wrong with it. Not everybody wants to play this game all day every day.

There is a place in the game for everyone regardless of play intensity.

I haven't owned pink since abyssea came out lol.

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Originally Posted by Gippo

This is the mentality of pink geared players. And people like you will never understand what we are saying because it requires thought.

Yes, it is a "game." as you say, but being able to see the big picture in terms of what is broken in legion is the point of this thread. Keep your useless drg out of this thread.

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My point is I'm not going to sit there getting all pissed off if something doesn't drop to me. That's called greed. I only do legion occasionally for fun when I see it in a shout, regardless if I will get reward or not. I have everything I desire except relics and random gear that I don't even know exists yet. You shouldn't have to get reward to feel like you're having fun. You're obviously not seeing the big picture.

Trying to find excuse for mediocre gear. The reason abyssea worked is precisely because anyone could get the gear. Anyone saying grinding seals or cards or scales in abyssea is fun is an hypocrite. The appeal of "new gear" is what makes people keep playing the game, and that's the real fun. The only reason you play is b/c you aim at better stuff, and you admitted it in your post haha.

The lack of reward is not the only reason legion is dead. At 75 when we had 2x more servers and players, people could not get 36 people for AV attempts (2 full allies was the intended way to kill this BS NM), even though getting @ AV camp is a matter of ~5 minutes. So why would people be able to gather 36 in 2012 ? This is the main issue right now imo, waiting for 36 in not fun..

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Trying to find excuse for mediocre gear. The reason abyssea worked is precisely because anyone could get the gear. Anyone saying grinding seals or cards or scales in abyssea is fun is an hypocrite. The appeal of "new gear" is what makes people keep playing the game, and that's the real fun. The only reason you play is b/c you aim at better stuff, and you admitted it in your post haha.

The lack of reward is not the only reason legion is dead. At 75 when we had 2x more servers and players, people could not get 36 people for AV attempts (2 full allies was the intended way to kill this BS NM), even though getting @ AV camp is a matter of ~5 minutes. So why would people be able to gather 36 in 2012 ? This is the main issue right now imo, waiting for 36 in not fun..

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Alot of people do play just to help and have fun even if there is no reward man. For example, I just decided to gear drg. 4/5 seals and some random blm I don't even know, stayed for a complete set of hand seals even when he didn't need anything and I didn't know him. People do that kind of stuff all the time. It's not always about the reward. In my opinion, that's what makes people greedy. It's playstyle. Some people play for the goals set daily such as say getting their 99 relic upgrade this day or farming a set amount of gil or what not, and then there are people like me and that blm, who if someone offers something, we will join just for the hell of it. Not saying you're a bad player for not being like us, it's just our playstyle and what we find more enjoyable, having fun and making friends. We don't expect results.

Not sure why people are focusing on the 36-man chamber when they've already announced their intentions to separate 18-man and 36-man play. We already know 36-man PUGs won't develop anyway, as that chamber requires the communication across allies that can only be provided by a LS pearl. Besides, who in their right mind would want to lot against 35 strangers for each Head or Feet Abjuration??

The event needs to be made accessible to 18-man alliances like Voidwatch was, and that chamber should be nerfed in terms of HP and difficulty ASAP as they've announced. I think the HP in the 36-man version needs to be lowered a bit and stuff like Heavy Metal Plates/Pouches/Riftxxx could be added, but unfortunately Camate didn't address that. Adding more buyable items with Legion points is a good step, perhaps add the Head/Feet Abjurations so the non-LS people can at least work toward stuff instead of trying to outlot 17 other people for each drop.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You say this like there's something wrong with it. Not everybody wants to play this game all day every day.

There is a place in the game for everyone regardless of play intensity.

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I didn't know playing casually meant you were mentally retarded. Kinda odd of you to make that conclusion. I say this, because even the most basic of human thought could tell you that a Walhara turban set will likely beat full pink.

You can play for 1 hour a day and still be smart enough to know when something is garbage. Time spent playing is no excuse for being terrible. The only excuse for full pink is "I can count to Potato". end of story.