Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

Assuming that SMN is eating RCB, and getting Haste, Marchx2, and Haste Samba, yes. And it's 150/400.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.

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Only if raw damage is what you're trying to do. Support styles are still just as beneficial in various circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Only if raw damage is what you're trying to do. Support styles are still just as beneficial in various circumstances.

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I specifically pointed that out. BG says "not for SMN."

GG, the extra damage was assumed to be from a hasted pet. A buff cycler isn't buffing their pet.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.

Raz, you begged to have a number. You have one. You are 1/10th a WAR.

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I'd rather be 1/10th a WAR while supporting the party and overall improving it's performance than 1/3 a WAR and that be my dedicated role

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Originally Posted by Dallas

I specifically pointed that out. BG says "not for SMN."

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In case you haven't figured it out after 24 pages (at 20 posts per page), we don't care what BG says.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

I'd rather be 1/10th a WAR while supporting the party and overall improving it's performance than <1/3 a WAR and that be my dedicated role

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Specifically REMOVE the SMN, and you remove the last 15% haste. Only a SMN is going to haste Garuda.

Al, Byrth is BG's liason.

I'd rather have a WHM who can Haste everybody and keep them alive, but hey, you showed up on melee SMN. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Specifically REMOVE the SMN, and you remove the last 15% haste. Only a SMN is going to haste Garuda.

Al, Byrth is BG's liason.

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If you remove the SMN you remove the Garuda. Only a SMN is going to summon Garuda.

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Originally Posted by dallas

If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.

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In which case, replace all melee SMN with real DDs. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

If you remove the SMN you remove the Garuda. Only a SMN is going to summon Garuda.

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For you, that's only 100 out of 400. You've already chosen to remove 75% of SMN.

Ty, unless it's a Ukon WAR, you need more math. Korpg was all excited about a Byakko's Axe WAR. Go for it!