Perfect defense / embrava unbalance

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

Exactly my point. You're always moving in nyzle. The event is 50% run, 50% kill. And for the most part, you don't need that much damage, you need more people to spread out and do the objective.

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You're stating that as if it was fact. There are times when a COR comes in handy compared to a BRD, there are times they don't.

All the nerfs (granted PD wasn't used in NNI) and lack of change to floor 100 really says is either:
- SE doesn't have a clue how to properly balance an event so that it's more skill than luck
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- SE never expected us to ever get 50%+ win rates on floor 100 runs.

Can't say I'm too surprised it's hard to crank out new content with a skeleton crew.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

You're stating that as if it was fact. There are times when a COR comes in handy compared to a BRD, there are times they don't.

All the nerfs (granted PD wasn't used in NNI) and lack of change to floor 100 really says is either:
- SE doesn't have a clue how to properly balance an event so that it's more skill than luck
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- SE never expected us to ever get 50%+ win rates on floor 100 runs.

Can't say I'm too surprised it's hard to crank out new content with a skeleton crew.

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Just saying.... tacts roll to a 5 is not hard, less yet 11 with the new snake eye rule. It takes maybe 6 seconds to get a 5 most times if you're lucky(haha getting luckier in a luck based event". The thing is that I feel cor would actually offer damage...and could spread out and do an objective. Opposed to a brd, that stands at the lamp everytime and casts a buff when ya zone up haha. I mean I guess it comes down to the cor or brd really. I personally would take a cor with 90+ arma and good gear sets.

Worst part about PD is it's screwing people with max SMN skill. If they want to tie it into skill fine, but SMN's should not have to track down every piece of gear. No other jobs requires the absolute max to get hte max potential out of their abilities, most jobs would get worse effects by doing so.

A melee can't max their damage from increasing their weapon skill to max. Increases in other stats produce more of a benefit. Same with Mage jobs. Capping the base skill is important, but you're not going to equip every possible piece of +elemental magic skill gear to get the max effect.

SE is requiring SMN's to track down every single piece of gear to get the max effect of their 2 hour. That's an imbalance. Especially since the max is well over 50 points from the maximum possible skill level now (meaning all the gear we've worked so hard to get is about to become obsolete). The 30+30 thing should cap at 500 skill. Enough to require effort, but not requiring a hunt for every single piece of gear.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

SE is requiring SMN's to track down every single piece of gear to get the max effect of their 2 hour. That's an imbalance. Especially since the max is well over 50 points from the maximum possible skill level now (meaning all the gear we've worked so hard to get is about to become obsolete). The 30+30 thing should cap at 500 skill. Enough to require effort, but not requiring a hunt for every single piece of gear.

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A SCH worth his salt relied exclusively on gear to get anywhere close to 500 enhancing magic, so that wasn't a SMN-only issue.

Comparing apples to oranges, SE decided not to fix content, but rather to fix the "loophole" that was allowing players to beat content that wasn't designed to be winnable.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

Worst part about PD is it's screwing people with max SMN skill. If they want to tie it into skill fine, but SMN's should not have to track down every piece of gear. No other jobs requires the absolute max to get hte max potential out of their abilities, most jobs would get worse effects by doing so.

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Ill stop you there. basic 450 skill (basic gear and capped skill/merit) is is something like 52 seconds, good gear at 500 ish is around 54 sec. Past that it's unrealistic. As you see, even gearing for smn skill is useless (yeah for +2 sec woot). The update doesn't eve, advantage well geared SMN, it should be 0 seconds base and 60 sec with 500 skill. Actually if they want to emphasize quality of SMN gear, it should be 30s for 400 skill and 60 sec for 500 skill.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

BLU is *not* a DD, it's gimp.

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Also forgot, GIMPchan is talking lol?

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Originally Posted by Llana_Virren

Comparing apples to oranges, SE decided not to fix content, but rather to fix the "loophole" that was allowing players to beat content that wasn't designed to be winnable.

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Indeed, the last few updates have been nothing but disappointment, one after another. I was looking forward for Meeble Burrows but seems like another content designed to string you along for no end in sights. It's all good though, it's been a good 10 years run, time to call it a day, close shop and take a long break till they grow a few INTs points and bring back Abyssea 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Indeed, the last few updates have been nothing but disappointment, one after another. I was looking forward for Meeble Burrows but seems like another content designed to string you along for no end in sights. It's all good though, it's been a good 10 years run, time to call it a day, close shop and take a long break till they grow a few INTs points and bring back Abyssea 2.0.

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Yes, please quit already. Start with the forums.

Come on Arc, being bitter isn't going to get us anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Yes, please quit already. Start with the forums.

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Yes thanks for the idiotic comment, you mad bro?

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Come on Arc, being bitter isn't going to get us anywhere.

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He is indeed one bitter old fart :)

So I was thinking the OP says that the boss was killed by 2 monks and a summoner... maybe its not PD That is over powered but maybe its the monks abilities + their weapons that are over powered instead QUICK NERF MONKS NAO!!!


trolling is so much fun isn't it?:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Iakothm

So I was thinking the OP says that the boss was killed by 2 monks and a summoner... maybe its not PD That is over powered but maybe its the monks abilities + their weapons that are over powered instead QUICK NERF MONKS NAO!!! trolling is so much fun isn't it?:rolleyes:

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LMAO, monks and warriors already got their nerfed awhile ago. I think the job that is due for massive adjustment is Samurai to be honest. But honestly I rather they leave these amazing jobs as it is instead of nerfing them to oblivion. What they should do instead is buffing other jobs that are not up to snuff, making thief, paladin, dark, summoner, bard, red mage, dancer, and beastmaster more attractive. They decided to go the easy way route, and did the absolute minimum when it comes adjusting Neo Nyzul and Legion.

That's why I made the thread, they had to pick they easy way.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Come on Arc, being bitter isn't going to get us anywhere.

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I'm always bitter.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Yes thanks for the idiotic comment, you mad bro?

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I'm not the one with foam at my mouth, screaming and crying in every thread over and over again about how mean the producer and the development team is and threatening to quit the game about it.

Not threatening to quit, just did. Another fine break from the game. This year has been quite lackluster compared to last year when it comes to content and updates. Mind you there are literally gazilion things to do in the game still and most of them not even affected by the recent updates at all. But as you know, action speaks louder than words, taking a break till the game actually worth paying again is not a bad thing to do. I suggest you develop a good reading comprehension.

than why stay around and talk on the forums if you are gonna quit don't sit there and stalk the forums.

Wasn't gonna take a break, but these recent bad news after another is the straws that break the camel back. Plus, if you read the response on the forum thread, I am not the only person here who are dissatisfied with the proposed updates. Gonna bust embrava right and left and enjoy it while it last :) The adjustment to blinkers fiasco is annoying but does not quite affect me since I did not even bother to do that in the first place. But the embrava + PD nerf really hits home hard since those are 2 of my favorite jobs in the game. Was hoping they just reduce the potency of embrava slightly, still good enough to be potent but not too awesome like the way it is now. Coupled with reduction in PD duration which is rather short to begin with, you start to wonder what kind of logic and reasons the developers have in mind.

Quit = leave & never come back.
Take a break = Leave & plan to come back at a later time.

If one is quiting, they need not do anything on these forums, why attempt to influence the course of the game if one has no plans of returning to it. However, if one plans to return later, they have every reason to post on these forums, they wish to guide the game still, even if they are not playing it, or not planing to play it much longer, because when they do return they will be effected by those changes all the same.

In otherwords, were I taking a break from the game starting tomorrow I would still pop in here & give the devs a piece of my mind, so when I come back later the game is better than when I left. At the same time, if I were quitting the game tomorrow with no intent to return, I would leave the forums alone, why bother attempting to change a games fate which I no longer have interest in? If I'm unsure if Ill return, I could do either one, threads that say they are quiting & here why, are threads I think of as people who are unsure about the game, they do not wish to quit, but they don't find the game enjoyable anymore, so they give a final note to the devs to explain what went wrong & why they are leaving, so that if things change, they may come back & enjoy the game again.



To sum it up, if your quitting, yeah, go away, if you might, or intend to come back, feel free to stick around & help guide the game in which direction you wish to see it go, after all you may be coming back, and if/when you do, you will want it to be good.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

In otherwords, were I taking a break from the game starting tomorrow I would still pop in here & give the devs a piece of my mind, so when I come back later the game is better than when I left. At the same time, if I were quitting the game tomorrow with no intent to return, I would leave the forums alone, why bother attempting to change a games fate which I no longer have interest in? If I'm unsure if Ill return, I could do either one, threads that say they are quiting & here why, are threads I think of as people who are unsure about the game, they do not wish to quit, but they don't find the game enjoyable anymore, so they give a final note to the devs to explain what went wrong & why they are leaving, so that if things change, they may come back & enjoy the game again.

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but you have to pay for the game or you cant post here thats exactly what 2 people of my ls did and the arnt allowed to post here anymore one of them dosn come back til anything happend in Campaign the other one dont feel like playing for now...

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

That's why I made the thread, they had to pick they easy way.

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And the result was..

A massive witch hunt NERF on the part of SE to PD and Embrava. Good job. An easy solution we needed was make it so they didn't stack. The time limit based on skill should've been capped at 500 for 60 seconds. That would set the bar lower too so it would cap out at 90ish.

SE said they were nerfing PD and Embrava months ago. It had nothing to do with this thread.

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Originally Posted by Chuckytaru

but you have to pay for the game or you cant post here thats exactly what 2 people of my ls did and the arnt allowed to post here anymore one of them dosn come back til anything happend in Campaign the other one dont feel like playing for now...

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Well in that case all the more reason to get the bitching out of your system before your current month ends wouldn't you agree? I mean if you are trying to make the game worth coming back to & you cant post if your not paying then you are running on what little time you have, might as well say your problems now & hope they get addressed when you can no speak up about them.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

LMAO, monks and warriors already got their nerfed awhile ago. I think the job that is due for massive adjustment is Samurai to be honest. But honestly I rather they leave these amazing jobs as it is instead of nerfing them to oblivion. What they should do instead is buffing other jobs that are not up to snuff, making thief, paladin, dark, summoner, bard, red mage, dancer, and beastmaster more attractive. They decided to go the easy way route, and did the absolute minimum when it comes adjusting Neo Nyzul and Legion.

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Explain how samurai is overpowered. Mnk War DRk all shit on it. Why the F would they nerf sam? Because they have a weaponskill that does 2/3 the damage of ukko's, smite, and resolution on average? Hell no.

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

Explain how samurai is overpowered. Mnk War DRk all shit on it. Why the F would they nerf sam? Because they have a weaponskill that does 2/3 the damage of ukko's, smite, and resolution on average? Hell no.

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Let's stop talking about awesome jobs, just say all jobs are underpowered and need positive adjustments. I don't think we want more negative job adjustments. In the last few years, only few jobs got massive overhaul: WHM, SCH, BST, DRG, and PUP. Then they start messing around with all the good things and decided to nerf some of these jobs, giving us empty promises (no TH gears for beast), and come up with ridiculous idiotic of new 2 hours (worse than the old one, totally useless for some jobs). Whenever a job is shining and working as intended in the eyes of players, SE come back with unneeded adjustment and for some, render the job completely unfavorable for big events. They still refuse to acknowledge the elephants in the room which is bad game design.

As others have asked why are you crying Pchan when it was you calling for the nerf ? Whats wrong you and Mdk can't kil adl anymore sucks for you.

I can't kill ADL anymore lol ? Didn't know that. At worst I can only get 45 M every two days instead of 90M. Not a problem really. Realistically though the marrow price will double haha.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

I can't kill ADL anymore lol ? Didn't know that. At worst I can only get 45 M every two days instead of 90M. Not a problem really. Realistically though the marrow price will double haha.

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Your emotional flip-flopping on this whole topic is almost as entertaining as the Presidential debates have been. Ironically both seem equally pointless.

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Originally Posted by Llana_Virren

Your emotional flip-flopping on this whole topic is almost as entertaining as the Presidential debates have been. Ironically both seem equally pointless.

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again this thread has nothing to do with the actual topic it's just a way for the idiot pimpchan to post his sig over and over again to boost his ego.

Wooo pointless sig pushing!


Realy though, they both needed to be nerfed.

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Originally Posted by Chuckytaru

but you have to pay for the game or you cant post here

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In fact, you DO NOT have to pay for the game to post here, period.

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Originally Posted by Vitus

In fact, you DO NOT have to pay for the game to post here, period.

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When I didn't pay because of some issues when changing credit card details, I couldn't post on here anymore. It said I needed an active Content ID.

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Originally Posted by Vitus

In fact, you DO NOT have to pay for the game to post here, period.

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You do too have to pay for the game to post here. You also have to actually be actively playing your character to post too.

I've been off from the game for a while, i'm still here posting.

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Originally Posted by Vitus

I've been off from the game for a while, i'm still here posting.

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and how long is "awhile"

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Originally Posted by Iakothm

again this thread has nothing to do with the actual topic it's just a way for the idiot pimpchan to post his sig over and over again to boost his ego.

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of course it has to do with it, don't be jealous already. This thread feels like BG.

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Originally Posted by Iakothm

and how long is "awhile"

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A pretty long while

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Originally Posted by Vitus

A pretty long while

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as in you canceled your account a week ago or as in you canceled your account a couple months ago?

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

of course it has to do with it, don't be jealous already. This thread feels like BG.

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lol I am not jealous I could care less who has what gear I am slowly making my way up in gear and I will have myself a Mythic polearm sooner or later. But that is besides the point you have conveyed both sides of the arguement in this thread proving that you are doing nothing but showing off your sig.

Nothing to do with people being jealous either. The simple fact you contradicted the subject of the thread shows it was mostly pointless, and likely an attempt at gloating about something I am 99.9% sure no one cares about.