To Dev's, are there any plans to fix Neo Nyzul Isle?

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

I wasn't being stupid with it. You were. The need for a chat app was created by SE. They put in an event that more or less requires voice chat into a game that does not support voice chat. You are lacking important mental faculties if you don't see the problem there.

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If, only, could, read. Lack, minds eye,, make,, 2,, response.

From a customers standpoint hearing about another customers standpoint about a development standpoint. You should go pick up an application for the Dev team.

Or you all could cry less and make effective chat macros to signify your party what is going on...

Shocker.

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

If, only, could, read. Lack, minds eye,, make,, 2,, response.

From a customers standpoint hearing about another customers standpoint about a development standpoint. You should go pick up an application for the Dev team.

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If you don't like hearing other people's opinions about game development, go read a different forum / thread. This one is about... game development, specifically regarding NNI. This is the part where the conversation degrades to "Your Momma" jokes because you are outta stuff to say.

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

Or you all could cry less and make effective chat macros to signify your party what is going on...

Shocker.

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LOL that's a good one. Care to share your super efficient macros mr. helpfulpants?

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

LOL that's a good one. Care to share your super efficient macros mr. helpfulpants?

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Sure.

"/p Found it! <t>" (this can be used for the lamp or specified mob/NM)
"/p Order"
"/p Code"
"/p Timed"
(for order, after order is given) "/p Lamp On" ~or~ "/p Lamp Off"
"/p Gather together, next floor Embrava/RegenV" (self explanitory, given your SCH's have half a brain + an alarm)
Typing "N,S,E,W" after saying the location of a code lamp, or a ToAU NM also helps.

You don't have to have an involved conversation to communicate.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

If you don't like hearing other people's opinions about game development, go read a different forum / thread.

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Where did you get that from? I never said or insinuated that..

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

This one is about... game development, specifically regarding NNI.

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Okay..?

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

This is the part where the conversation degrades to "Your Momma" jokes because you are outta stuff to say.

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Says the guy who starts saying others lack the mental capacity to see things. When I stoop to your level and when you get to "yo mamma" jokes. Then we can talk about it.

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

Where did you get that from? I never said or insinuated that..

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oh, I guess you were being serious when you said:

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

From a customers standpoint hearing about another customers standpoint about a development standpoint. You should go pick up an application for the Dev team.

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And here I am thinking you were trying to tell me to shut up about game development. My bad. I'm glad you respect my opinion enough to suggest I apply for the team. That's very big of you.

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

Says the guy who starts saying others lack the mental capacity to see things. When I stoop to your level and when you get to "yo mamma" jokes. Then we can talk about it.

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Says the guy who replied with:

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Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan

Please don't be stupid with it.

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When I took his broken logic and showed the flaws. Face it. Your arguing against something that would make the game better just to spite people who you deem lazier or less skilled than you. You would rather the game lack in features than let people who you see as unworthy have something they want. There is no reason why an official chat app can't be developed and used for more than just FFXI.

But that's beside the real point, which is that something that does not exist in the game should not be required in order to be good at the game. It's a fact that NNI is nigh impossible to win without a large number of things completely unrelated to your skill all coming together perfecftly.

NNI is basically a three hundred foot tall wall in the outfield with a few roided up d-bags who can hit one out telling the camera "It's not about taking performance enhancing drugs and having the catcher tell you what pitch is coming and using corked bats guys... these other guys just need to learn to swing smarterer..."

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

Sure.

"/p Found it! <t>" (this can be used for the lamp or specified mob/NM)
"/p Order"
"/p Code"
"/p Timed"
(for order, after order is given) "/p Lamp On" ~or~ "/p Lamp Off"
"/p Gather together, next floor Embrava/RegenV" (self explanitory, given your SCH's have half a brain + an alarm)
Typing "N,S,E,W" after saying the location of a code lamp, or a ToAU NM also helps.

You don't have to have an involved conversation to communicate.

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I think we both know that none of those macros are going to make a party anywhere near as efficient as a group using skype.

There's no way around it man. Natural speech is far more efficient without even trying to rush it.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

There's no way around it man. Natural speech is far more efficient without even trying to rush it.

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I'm not saying that it's better or as efficient. What I'm saying is that it 'can' be done.
We use the macro for one person, who unfortunately cannot join us on Skype.
And with your logic, wiki is for botters, pos-hackers, and people who run around at Mazurka speed. K.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

I'm glad you respect my opinion enough to suggest I apply for the team. That's very big of you.

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I think a lot of people would see it all differently if they put themselves in the teams shoes. Which is exactly why I am against the idea, but yes sincerely I think you should apply to be a Dev.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

When I took his broken logic and showed the flaws. Face it. Your arguing against something that would make the game better just to spite people who you deem lazier or less skilled than you. You would rather the game lack in features than let people who you see as unworthy have something they want. There is no reason why an official chat app can't be developed and used for more than just FFXI.

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Here is what you are trying to peg me on. That I think there is a negative reason against some chat program being made for the game. I am not, and in fact it be to my benefit so I did not have to ask people to download something like Vent for events. It has nothing to do with arrogance, narcissism, or the sort.

I do not see them doing it because lets be honest. Are they really doing to spend the time trying to make a chat program that works between PS2 and Xbox users? On top of Xbox Live then factoring in and becoming a hassle. I just do not see it as a realistic goal because of all the details here and there. Now if it was just for PC users then sure it wouldn't be anything groundbreaking to have to develop, but SE won't do that because it creates offsets the "balance" of the platforms. We have heard their responses on matters enough to be able to generally anticipate if they would be willing to do things or not. Just like they will not expand the macro lines for the same rationale.

That is all excluding the effectiveness of choosing it over existing options too.

The logic here is not broken at all.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

But that's beside the real point, which is that something that does not exist in the game should not be required in order to be good at the game.

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It does not make you good. It just helps, and your request is like complaining that the batteries are not included for the toys, the additional parts are sold separately, and the HDMI wire does not come with the new TV. How many things in life do you come across a situation where you actually want/need to get items not included in a purchase?

A cookie jar does not come with cookies inside and you should not be surprised when you get home and your decade old cookie jar initially running on an even older table station 2 does not have the ability to chat with a PC, a PS3, and an Xbox living on its own island with its own chat system and a different set of rules. Frankly I was surprised I did not need a gold membership to play this on Xbox.

We get more bang for our buck if SE just works on content rather than making something which already exists for anyone who owns a PC.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

NNI is basically a three hundred foot tall wall in the outfield with a few roided up d-bags who can hit one out telling the camera "It's not about taking performance enhancing drugs and having the catcher tell you what pitch is coming and using corked bats guys... these other guys just need to learn to swing smarterer...

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I disagree.

The reality is that we are not in the MLB, but the Sandlot. When you have a group filled with a bunch of new kids on the block then you will just end up saying "you are killing me Smalls". When you have a team filled with Benny Rodriguez you will have a natural advantage over a team of Ham, Squints, and two twins who repeat themselves.

This is not about Bugs Bunny vs the Mon-Stars in a game of basketball as your odds. It is about going in with a good team for your best chance to beat the RNG. Nothing more and nothing less. Even cheaters lose here, but yes it does increase your odds.

There is no 300 foot wall, no team of roid filled players, and the only corked bats are the people who all have E/M/R weapons.

Put me on the list for wanting this event adjusted in the nearer future.

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

Sure.

"/p Found it! <t>" (this can be used for the lamp or specified mob/NM)
"/p Order"
"/p Code"
"/p Timed"
(for order, after order is given) "/p Lamp On" ~or~ "/p Lamp Off"
"/p Gather together, next floor Embrava/RegenV" (self explanitory, given your SCH's have half a brain + an alarm)
Typing "N,S,E,W" after saying the location of a code lamp, or a ToAU NM also helps.

You don't have to have an involved conversation to communicate.

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hye guys, I heard doing macros is a good way to communicate with people. The best macro in nyzul is hermes' sandals.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

hye guys, I heard doing macros is a good way to communicate with people. The best macro in nyzul is hermes' sandals.

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Great for adding nothing pchan? Only a retard would enter NNI without hermes, powder boots, and sprinters.

edit: I remembered, it's pchan. lol.

All elite boys + their mules already have 15/15 Square Enix, time to give us something other than "Luck based events" or "time sink based events".

The real skill + gear + w/e event is Legion. which is almost unbeatable w/o a good zerg strategy for every chamber.

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Originally Posted by Waldrich

All elite boys + their mules already have 15/15 Square Enix, time to give us something other than "Luck based events" or "time sink based events".

The real skill + gear + w/e event is Legion. which is almost unbeatable w/o a good zerg strategy for every chamber.

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Neo-Nyzul and Legion are both skill and gear dependent! One just requires less people with gear/skill.
afk GW2

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

I'm not saying that it's better or as efficient. What I'm saying is that it 'can' be done.
We use the macro for one person, who unfortunately cannot join us on Skype.
And with your logic, wiki is for botters, pos-hackers, and people who run around at Mazurka speed. K.

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So everyone doesn't need chat apps, just 5/6 of the party. Well in that case, I say they revamp 5/6 of the event or build 5/6 of a chat app. That makes perfect sense.

The design of NNI is meant to trickle out some fine pieces of equipments at extremely low rate. A PT without cheat would need all the stars aligned just to win. Anyone that claims they can win on a regular basis w/o cheat of any form is either: one, a lying fool with an inflated sense of superiority. Two, a stupid idiot doesn't even know his members are cheating when they zip through his face with 100%+ movement, or identify the objectives at 50yarms away in a walled-maze environment.

On a side note, for those people who still have the false impression that the Japanese don't cheat, I would like to let you know that they are not all that pretty like you think they are. If you have a capable brain and dwell enough time in its late modern history you will understand that Hitler is just a kitty compared to what the Japanese did to East Asia.

I'm pretty sure the Devs has statistical data on this. They probably look at the data and see a decent gear distribution rate (regardless of the way people acquired them) from this event and I don't think they will want to increase it any further, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Razielrinz

Sure have played it. Been playing it fora long time. And I am one of many people who are getting fed up with this crap. Making any event single out jobs and restrict the rest is not good for business. I remember soloing Blm to 72 on Bst pets cause I could not get into any Aht Urgan parties cause they all did birds and birds reflected damage. Why should people be forced to play a certain job to do content they want to do to get w/e gear they want? What if I want to come on my Corsair? What if I want to come on my Blm? What if I hate Sch or Smn or the heavy DD that you require? Why should I have to play something I hate to get gear I want? It should be open for everyone to do without having to cheat or rely on Sch 2 hour and JA or Smn and their 2 hour JA. And content that makes it restrictive chases away people that are casual and reduces the number of people paying for the game. Oh and Plasticleg I like your quote, as it shows your ignorance to a very real problem. I, like many have lots of hours in this game and would like it to keep going and content like NNI is not helping it. That's my opinion. The only real solution is to reduce the overall difficulty (incoming hate I can feel it) and just say W/E to the 4 HDD and 2 Sch parties kicking it's teeth in like they do now anyway. This way everyone can do it (even pick up parties wooooooo) like they used to be able to in regular Nyzul Isle. So hate on me all you want but I love this game and do not want to see it go down the crapper cause of elitist attitudes leading the development team.

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Everyone's favorite Abyssea doesn't let me play Corsair too because NIN WAR BLM/BRD BLU WHM MNK only.....until I need to brew something.

No game content in FFXI allow every job to fit in optimal setup, ever. Hey, Abyssea is easy, but as soon as you play jobs like Corsair, your farming efficiency decreased, like what happen when you use none-optimal job in NNI.


Btw, Corsair can beat NNI, ppl beat it on this job before with 20 floor jumps and no clipper. Of course it's not most optimal and win rate may decrease, just like how it's not optimal for Abyssea. That's why Abyssea is a poor arguement if you just want to play favorite job in NNI.

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Originally Posted by Vitus

The design of NNI is meant to trickle out some fine pieces of equipments at extremely low rate. A PT without cheat would need all the stars aligned just to win. Anyone that claims they can win on a regular basis w/o cheat of any form is either: one, a lying fool with an inflated sense of superiority. Two, a stupid idiot doesn't even know his members are cheating when they zip through his face with 100%+ movement, or identify the objectives at 50yarms away in a walled-maze environment.

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I posted 6 or 7 videos to my youtube account in about 2 weeks of me beating this event with my mule, without cheating. Wanna know how you can tell we didnt cheat? Cause no one was running fast and we didnt get a single order floor in any of them. I also live streamed all of them as I was doing it. Just because you're bad at the game doesn't mean other people are as well.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

I posted 6 or 7 videos to my youtube account in about 2 weeks of me beating this event with my mule, without cheating. Wanna know how you can tell we didnt cheat? Cause no one was running fast and we didnt get a single order floor in any of them. I also live streamed all of them as I was doing it. Just because you're bad at the game doesn't mean other people are as well.

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From the mule's POV at the lamp. Not saying you clippered or anything, but it doesn't show that your group didn't.

Just stop. No one cares if you did or not.

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Originally Posted by Plasticleg

From the mule's POV at the lamp. Not saying you clippered or anything, but it doesn't show that your group didn't.

Just stop. No one cares if you did or not.

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I only sat at the lamp for 2 of the videos. Make more excuses.

Not only that but I uploaded a video of me on WAR winning nyzul as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbRjebM9rGk&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-tVT3u9tq8&feature=plcp

Your condescending attitude about the subject is probably why few people care about your input on it, including myself.

I just get tired of bad players spamming threads like this saying its unwinnable unless you flee hack at 500% and use lamp order DATs.

People who aren't bad, and see terrible amounts of luck based parts in an event, probably hate being called bad players too.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

I just get tired of bad players spamming threads like this saying its unwinnable unless you flee hack at 500% and use lamp order DATs.

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Because anyone that has a problem with RNG dominated events is a bad player.

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Because anyone that has a problem with RNG dominated events is a bad player.

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If you cant win neo-nyzul at least 10% of the times you go into the event, youre in a bad group of bad players, and might be bad yourself.

Neo-nyzul is instant win, no progression required, RNG is just an excuse bad players use for why they cant win. Inside 2 weeks I acquired every piece of gear my mule needed from the event, with a lot of people who didnt have much/any experiance with the event. Within 2 months anyone could be 15/15 if theyre not bad. Compared to old FFXI, or even Abyssea stuff, this event is an amazing handout of awesome gear.

Your enthusiasm for this event amazes me. Can I have some of what you're smoking?

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Your enthusiasm for this event amazes me. Can I have some of what you're smoking?

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So basically ppl that have cleared without clipper are not allow to express his/her opinion about this event isn't that bad?

SE forum rule No.1: If you're not here to complain about game content, you should gtfo cuz you're not allow to defend for game content or tell everyone how it is possible to win.

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Originally Posted by Afania

So basically ppl that have cleared without clipper are not allow to express his/her opinion about this event isn't that bad?

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No, you are allowed to express your opinion, just not in a condescending & insulting attitude, such as telling people they are bad players because they disagree with an event they believe to be highly luck based. This is something that Wish seems to do any time someone says NNI is bad content, flaunting a high personal win rate followed by the insulting comment that is similar to...

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

If you cant win neo-nyzul at least 10% of the times you go into the event, youre in a bad group of bad players, and might be bad yourself.

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For me it has little to do with the fact people want to say the content isn't bad, Ill simply disagree with anyone who wants to say it does not have many parts of luck, mitigated with skill & proper communication, my problem is more so the underline tone of how its being said, and the remarks I see as insulting.

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Originally Posted by Afania

So basically ppl that have cleared without clipper are not allow to express his/her opinion about this event isn't that bad?

SE forum rule No.1: If you're not here to complain about game content, you should gtfo cuz you're not allow to defend for game content or tell everyone how it is possible to win.

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No, I never said anything like that. After all the forums are here for us to discuss the game and post our opinions, I was just stating that Wish has a huge amount of enthusiasm for NNI and has been defending it tooth and nail for 15 pages. To me that's like someone extolling the merits of a pile of hot garbage and arguing with anyone that disagrees, because they just don't know how awesome said garbage really is. Of course that's just my opinion, feel free to ignore me.

The event is luck based. You will win, you will lose. If you have any sort of decent gear, like an OA2 DRK with 26% haste and even a shitty weaponskill set, you can win. Just learn the damn event and do it right. I know players 10x worse than me that cleared the content legit. The event is more about speed movement and communication, not OMG zerg everything. Little things like making your sch pull mobs to you, people not fighting together, having a designated lamp caller. They all help. Fulltime flee boots. Having flee available 100% of the time is a huge boost. Sadly the groups I go with don't even do that shit, and it shows. Stop blaming SE. The only thing that could be minor changed is order lamps. The rest is all failure on the playerbases part.

Personally, while I do think that Neo-Nyzul is perfectly possible to beat as long as you put the effort in, I still think its a horribly designed event, when you consider things like Salvage at 75...at first people didn't have a clue how to beat it, then in a few months people were doing full clears of SSR 1-4+B with time to spare. That was people figuring out strategies and getting into the rhythm of the event, etc. Neo Nyzul has that to an extent, you can get good at it but even with that the random number generation can still bone you, and I think that's something worth complaining about. I just find it silly that one night my group can get 5 wins in a row and then the next week we get 0 (This actually happened, I'm not exaggerating :p). It's just a poorly thought-out event. The absolute worst criticism you can throw at Salvage was the cell drop rate in Arrapago, which still averaged out high enough for a well-oiled group to full clear the area every single time.

I think they should make order lamps not make you wait something like 20 seconds after a failure, and I think that fix alone will probably make it better (Such order lamp floors wouldn't be all that worse than gigantic clear all floors anyway). I really hope SE avoids this sort of design philosophy in the future though.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

For me it has little to do with the fact people want to say the content isn't bad, Ill simply disagree with anyone who wants to say it does not have many parts of luck, mitigated with skill & proper communication, my problem is more so the underline tone of how its being said, and the remarks I see as insulting.

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I only speak the truth in a blunt and easy to understand way. A 10% win rate requires your group to be able to clear 15-16 floors a run, if you can't do that, you are in a bad group, no question about it, there's nothing to argue. If you don't like my bluntness on the subject, you should just ignore my posts, but that won't change the fact that I'm right about this. You can't even argue against my stance that in comparison to old content or even abyssea, this event gives amazing rewards for time spent doing it, you just complain that I speak bluntly.

I don't expect most people to clear 20 floors on average like I did, 15-16 and having a 10% win rate is more than acceptable, and you'd get everything you need within 2 months. If all the complainers in this thread had been doing this event instead of complaining in this thread, you'd all be done by now. It's kind of sad the way I see it.

Nothing to do with being blunt either, you have straight up told me I'm a bad player because I told my opinion that this event has way to many luck based things in it that are only mitigated by skill.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

And Demon, youre just bad, I dont even care, suck less and you'll win, that simple.

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Then stop being bad?
Game isn't hard.

That's also not why I said you're bad.

Point is when talking about NNI you always come in & say you have a blah blah win rate, you have all you want for you & your mule, and people are bad players. This condescending attitude is what I have a problem with, you like NNI? Cool, I don't, many others don't, thats our view on it, I don't say that your just a cheating liar who wants to keep your NNI gear and want it as a gloating tool you can keep while others cant get it the same way because they fixed lamps. I simply tell you my opinion on the event, take it or leave it, doesn't give you a right or reason to be a douche about it.

So after 16 pages, they still have not recover their ability to say something and pretty much ignoring people again as usual. Seems like this game is going back to their ancient ways of see no evil, hear no evil, the consumers do not exist and they are only paying monkeys with no opinion and no voice....

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

So after 16 pages, they still have not recover their ability to say something and pretty much ignoring people again as usual. Seems like this game is going back to their ancient ways of see no evil, hear no evil, the consumers do not exist and they are only paying monkeys with no opinion and no voice....

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No content can please everyone, but I think SE official forum thread should not be an indication whether everyone is happy or mad about it. From what I've seen, majority of players(probably including myself, since I complained about things too) that come here mainly because they're unhappy about something in this game, while ppl happy with the content usually won't come here to say stuff. There are plenty of ppl I know have full set, didn't clipper, and told me that NNI is one of their fav event, some even kept doing it after 15/15.

Is NNI luck based? Yes, like old dyna/salvage/VW/limbus etc etc etc. But based on the fact that A LOT of player already has full set, it's certainly not unclearable, far from it. Of course nobody can force ppl to like the event. I don't like the event either, and pretty much just gtfo after I got what I want. Doesn't mean I think this event should hand out item faster than it is now.

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Originally Posted by Afania

NNI is one of their fav event, some even kept doing it after 15/15.

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Not to sound rude/mean/offensive but... I don't believe that 1st part, and I have to assume the 2nd part is because they are helping people who need it still who are friends or LS members.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Not to sound rude/mean/offensive but... I don't believe that 1st part, and I have to assume the 2nd part is because they are helping people who need it still who are friends or LS members.

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Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Some doesn't like VW zerg, doesn't like lv 75 solo content, and NNI was in right difficulty with mid-sized pt. 1st part is real. Like how I can tell ppl how I love VW all day while others hate it, or others tell me how love abyssea all day but I hate it as much as NNI.

2nd part is because they're helping yes, but if you hate it with a passion you wouldn't want to help either.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Nothing to do with being blunt either, you have straight up told me I'm a bad player because I told my opinion that this event has way to many luck based things in it that are only mitigated by skill.

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I agree that Kaerin's attitude is pretty, err, notorious on forums and not everyone liked. But one thing I don't really understand. If player A call another player doing it wrong/gimp/bad, that player often have 3 different types of reaction. It's either
1: Acted up and call player A elitist 2: Defend for themselves, insisted they're not wrong or they have various reason to do it wrong. 3: Back off and tell everyone that they'd rather not do the event.

I know that probably not everyone is going to enjoy everything, nor I can change how ppl enjoy certain things. IMO however, if one player have problem to achieve their goal, wouldn't that player need a more positive attitude to solve the problem? If another pt has 18 floor jump avg(Note that I didn't use win rate here, only used jump, to emphasize on performance over luck), but my pt only have 15 jump avg, then what I should worry about, is to increase floor jump rather than being called doing it wrong or bad.

And I think that's where Kaerin is getting at. That majority of player, have no positive attitude, nor the will to find and solve the problem. And this is one problem I noticed on a lot of players in general. And it has nothing to do with gear/hardcore etc(this happens to players plays 24/7 also). If Ukon 90 WAR A parsed 7%, Ukon 90 WAR B parsed 15% in every fight, not just one. The obviously Ukon WAR A is doing it wrong. If Nyzul A pt has 18 jump avg, Nyzul B pt with same setup only has 15 jumps avg, then obviously Nyzul B pt is doing it wrong and should try to find ways to get more jumps. What I don't understand is, instead of trying to perform as well as others, many Nyzul B pt player come to the forum and complained, and tell everyone that they hate this event and not going to do it anymore.

Of course no event can please everyone. But personally if I see other ppl performing better than me, 1st thing I ask is if I do something wrong, and try to solve the problem in every way, before I worry about elitists call me bad. However, I rarely tell everyone I hate this and give up, or else I will never beat it and get item, and giving up is same thing as losing.

But now that majority of player got so acted up or instantly back off from event if I suggest them how to improve when they play their jobs, with no intention to solve the problem, even if I said in most polite manner I can think of. I don't get it. Isn't problem solving/positive attitude an important aspect irl when you work too? So how come once we log on to the game it's all gone? Inb4 game isn't life.

Majority of tips and tricks to win is being posted on the forums. And you need X setup+ cheating to win is just exaggeratting. A lot of Nyzul complain posts floating on the forum I actually posted several solution. Don't have 3rd pt tool? Powder bootsx7+ full time rotation and keep flee up full time. Don't have DRK WAR etc? Many other jobs such as NIN DNC COR BLU THF proved to able to clear. Nobody want to take your jobs? Make your own. Your pt really really REALLY can't do 16 floor jump? Do F80 25 times I guess. To be successful in this game, is nothing but problem solving(a skill you used a lot irl too), and find different ways to improve performance within your ability and resource. I don't deny that I can't solve every problem I encounter in game, but that's part of the spice of playing the game, it's a challenge, and if you can't face it with a more positive attitude while enjoying it, then what's the point to keep playing?

That's really what I see from Kaerin's post, besides the fact that not everyone enjoys NNI. NNI is one of my least fav event and I swear I hated it, but I never run away from it, and still managed to put together a group, farmed a lv 85 empy for my DD, and watched a tones of Video, spent tones of gil on powder boots just to beat it and get gear half an year ago. And this is not THAT undoable for majority of player IMO. Once upon a time my friend told me, "If you can't get something, that means you haven't tried hard enough". I always remind myself with what he said, for both in game and irl, whenever I set a goal that seemed impossible to reach.




I know next post someone will reply with "But I just don't enjoy the content, and I'm paying for this game so I should get content I enjoy". Ok move on.

Well they *fixed* Nyzule Isle.

Embrava is now 90s base for 3:45 total.

Requires 5 floor 80 wins to get a floor 100 item.

They want floor 100 to remain "lucky only".

So ... good luck...

They've certainly "fixed" NNI alright...