To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Because in my opinion, it doesn't feel like one any more. Not in the way it's currently being designed and embraced. I don't have to like or dislike it, but as a matter of fact, I do not like it.

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Then go play another game. What you're asking for is too much. You don't play an MMO with the idea that the game developers are going to turn the game into something that suits your personal tastes, despite the fact that you're one of the few people who wants the things you're asking for. It's a selfish and deluded way of thinking.

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Originally Posted by Eric

Then go play another game. What you're asking for is too much. You don't play an MMO with the idea that the game developers are going to turn the game into something that suits your personal tastes, despite the fact that you're one of the few people who wants the things you're asking for. It's a selfish and deluded way of thinking.

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You mean revert it back to the way it used to be? Back when I bought it? That's like saying, "I bought a brand new sports car last year and last month it spontaneously morphed into a mini-van". And, you're saying I should just be OK with that; That's a selfish way of thinking?

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Because in my opinion, it doesn't feel like one any more. Not in the way it's currently being designed and embraced. I don't have to like or dislike it, but as a matter of fact, I do not like it.

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Unless, you can get your post more positive votes/likes than the tiny minority you have. Our community has shown you that your vote, opinion and/or request deserves the middle finger. Why the middle finger?, because you want to break our game again. The majority seems to like the changes to the experience point syatem. By telling the new developer DO IT MY WAY I'm the target audience you're trying to go over everyone eases head. This topic is arrogant like you're some special prodigy person that deserves a direct audience with the developer.

In before you say something like, the members of these forums don't represent the community. I'm going to point this out. If they care enough to visit these forums and contribute they're vested interest is greater then the average Jane/Joe on the game.

Look at this closely..

The FFXI community has spoken, the majority has spoken, The community has voted the majority has voted.

YOU ARE THE MINORITY, YOU LOST GET OVER YOURSELF!:mad:

Unless the developers are crazy they'll ignore your request completely. There's no need for you to try and defend your argument at this point doing so only makes it more apparent how much the player majority disagrees with you. Everyone has a right to an opinion but most of them post suggestions to the community as a whole not to the producer directly.

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Originally Posted by Sarick

Unless, you can get your post more positive votes/likes than the tiny minority you have. Our community has shown you that your vote, opinion and/or request deserves the middle finger. Why the middle finger?, because you want to break our game again. The majority seems to like the changes to the experience point syatem. By telling the new developer DO IT MY WAY I'm the target audience you're trying to go over everyone eases head. This topic is arrogant like you're some special prodigy person that deserves a direct audience with the developer.

Look at this closely..

The FFXI community has spoken, the majority has spoken, The community has voted the majority has voted.

YOU ARE THE MINORITY, YOU LOST GET OVER YOURSELF!:mad:

Unless the developers are crazy they'll ignore your request completely. There's no need for you to try and defend your argument at this point doing so only makes it more apparent how much the player majority disagrees with you. Everyone has a right to an opinion but most of them post suggestions to the community as a whole not to the producer directly.

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Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.

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getting to level 10, 15, 20, 30 real challenges away from the repetitive levequests, and gratify us with oportunities that open up at every stage: Environmental puzzles, mysteriously coded scrolls, incomplete maps, a bit of Myst in Eorzea.

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This is about making it more relevant, for people to want to take another path. The topic says STOP THE GRIND TO ENDGAME MADNESS. You're topic is requesting to make it a grind or bring back the grind. The link you posted doesn't ask to bring back the old leveling system. It ask to improve on the game to new standards. The developers have already been doing this by adding level sync, FOV GOV etc. It's completely opposite the way your topic promotes changes.

This logic of yours fails. I would agree with this guy and still not agree with the post topic you made because you're asking for something different. You're asking to force the old ways back on players. The post you link ask to make the experience more enjoyable with a higher sense of satisfaction/accomplishment. The BRING back the old ways you promote is apples vs oranges and doesn't accomplish this for 90% of the player base.

Point, you still lose.

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This as well :

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

All I saw was a link to a forum regarding a game that was not FFXI and is therefor not relevant to this discussion.

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This is about making it more relevant, for people to want to take another path. The topic says STOP THE GRIND. You're asking in your topic to make it a grind or bring back the grind. The link you posted doesn't ask to bring back the old leveling system it ask to improve on the game. The devs have been doing this by adding level sync, FOV GOV etc. already.

This logic of yours fails. I would agree with this guy and still not agree with the post topic you made because you're asking for something different. You're asking to force the old ways back on players. The post you link ask to make the experience more enjoyable with a higher sense of satisfaction/accomplishment. The BRING back the old ways you promote is apples vs oranges and doesn't accomplish this for 90% of the player base.

Point, you still lose.

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Do you always read exactly what you want to?

End anti-newbie discrimination, make every level count. Slow down the pace of advancement. Smell the flowers. Struggle with difficult mobs at every level. Enter awesome events at every step. I long for a game in which the steps forward are packed with excitement and opportunities for fun. Not a rat-race to the end; the end being the only place where you will be considered someone by your fellow-players.

This is actually more casual-player-friendly than accelerating and stultifying the game, so that almost anybody can get to the "fun-filled end."

End-obsessed game design fosters fascistic behavior in the community. Plus, it rewards the slacker that doesn't want a life, whereas it penalizes the player with the regular life. Making the advancement mechanics super-easy, the way the developers of this game sometimes seem to believe they should, does not improve the chances for anybody: The "Über" get to the end and get bored too early, the casuals never catch up, and are still discriminated.

There. That's the rest of it you failed to read.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Plus, it rewards the slacker that doesn't want a life, whereas it penalizes the player with the regular life.

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Is this really something we should be rewarding or penalizing? Seems like its a little backwards.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Do you always read exactly what you want to?

End anti-newbie discrimination, make every level count. Slow down the pace of advancement. Smell the flowers. Struggle with difficult mobs at every level. Enter awesome events at every step. I long for a game in which the steps forward are packed with excitement and opportunities for fun. Not a rat-race to the end; the end being the only place where you will be considered someone by your fellow-players.

This is actually more casual-player-friendly than accelerating and stultifying the game, so that almost anybody can get to the "fun-filled end."

End-obsessed game design fosters fascistic behavior in the community. Plus, it rewards the slacker that doesn't want a life, whereas it penalizes the player with the regular life. Making the advancement mechanics super-easy, the way the developers of this game sometimes seem to believe they should, does not improve the chances for anybody: The "Über" get to the end and get bored too early, the casuals never catch up, and are still discriminated.

There. That's the rest of it you failed to read.

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You do realize, most people who read topics that have a large general scope of interest decide based on what influences them the most in the subject matter. This means that if the writer touches on one or two good points a neutral point and one bad point they'll still give a thumbs up. This doesn't mean they agree with everything in the topic. It means that poster did a good job at making everything balance out in an intelligent way.

Like I said people don't agree with your post. You are threatening to the community and propose to the producer directly. The request you make is bring back old school grinding. No one wants this. They do like the idea of having fun and if it's not obvious having fun currently doesn't involve spending all day looking for party or getting one level.

This is why your topic fails so hard and the other topic succeeds so well. You did a horrible job at making people like what you have to say because the way you advertise is what people hate the most. Perhaps you should've just cut and past that link or just plain bumped that topic because the topic you made sure isn't selling anyone who wants a better game.

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Originally Posted by Sarick

You do realize, most people who read topics that have a large general scope of interest decide based on what influences them the most in the subject matter. This means that if the writer touches on one or two good points a neutral point and one bad point they'll still give a thumbs up. This doesn't mean they agree with everything in the topic. It means that poster did a good job at making everything balance out in an intelligent way.

Like I said people don't agree with your post. You are threatening to the community and propose to the producer directly. The request you make is bring back old school grinding. No one wants this. They do like the idea of having fun and if it's not obvious having fun currently doesn't involve spending all day looking for party or getting one level.

This is why your topic fails so hard and the other topic succeeds so well. You did a horrible job at making people like what you have to say because the way you advertise is what people hate the most. Perhaps you should've just cut and past that link or just plain bumped that topic because the topic you made sure isn't selling anyone.

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...So, according to your first paragraph you're voluntarily saying that the "Like" button should actually carry little sway because people will pick out one thing they like and then press it? You know what I think? I think the majority of 119 people read the post and understood it and acted accordingly. Sorry if you can't or won't see that.

I want to be threatening to the community, if you haven't gathered as much yet. "No one wants this" - speak for yourself. There are others out there who definitely do, they just don't play this game much any more.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.

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I can't help but notice that every post on here arguing against you has several likes, while most of your posts have 0.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.

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All I saw was a link to a forum regarding a game that was not FFXI and is therefor not relevant to this discussion.

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All I saw was a link to a forum regarding a game that was not FFXI and is therefor not relevant to this discussion.

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And unfortunately, that is all you will ever see.

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...So, according to your first paragraph you're voluntarily saying that the "Like" button should actually carry little sway because people will pick out one thing they like and then press it? You know what I think? I think the majority of 119 people read the post and understood it and acted accordingly. Sorry if you can't or won't see that.

I want to be threatening to the community, if you haven't gathered as much yet. "No one wants this" - speak for yourself. There are others out there who definitely do, they just don't play this game much any more.

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How about this. Instead of trying to tell the developers how to make the game without suggesting features that would make it better you stand up and suggest how they do it without screwing over the community? The developers have done things like fields of valor, Grounds of Valor, Kappa Powers etc. to encourage what the other poster ask.

Simply, sitting back and telling the developers DO IT. Why can't you suggest HOW they can do it to the community? If you can't make a solution then you're putting a foot in your mouth. The same go's for the fellow with 100+ likes. If you think you have what it takes then by all means do so and stop telling the developers go back to 2004 for you so you can get an old school party.

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Here, I'll help you out. Why not make lower trials that encourage doing FOV/GOV mobs for end game gear (weapons etc). If the player completes a specific range of those equivalent to their level monsters within 5-10 range in FOV or GOV at lower levels they can skip some of the higher tier trials to unlock end game gear.

See how easy it is. Instead of l just telling them to FIX/BREAK stuff offer suggestions to the community how to fix it. Do not just tell the producer to fix it. If someone walks up to you and says "You aren't a good person fix it" It doesn't go very far into making you better. They need to tell you what needs fixed and suggest how it can be fixed in detail.

So, now that you have the chance, stop beating a dead horse (this topic) and wasting peoples time. Make some suggestions to the community to fix the stuff you want to be better. Obviously, you desire a better game. If you really do want it to get better step up to the plate and innovate some of your own ideas instead of telling the developer to bring back stuff people hate.

As for the vote thing, I already explained why people disagree with your topic. If you still don't get it that's your problem not mine.

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Originally Posted by Sarick

How about this. Instead of trying to tell the developers how to make the game without suggesting features that would make it better you stand up and suggest how they do it without screwing over the community? The developers have done things like fields of valor, Grounds of Valor, Kappa Powers etc. to encourage what the other poster ask.

Simply, sitting back and telling the developers DO IT. Why can't you suggest HOW they can do it to the community? If you can't make a solution then you're putting a foot in your mouth. The same go's for the fellow with 100+ likes. If you think you have what it takes then by all means do so and stop telling the developers go back to 2004 for you so you can get an old school party.

Example...
Here, I'll help you out. Why not make lower trials that encourage doing FOV/GOV mobs for end game gear (weapons etc). If the player completes a specific range of those equivalent to their level monsters within 5-10 range in FOV or GOV at lower levels they can skip some of the higher tier trials to unlock end game gear.

See how easy it is. Instead of l just telling them to FIX/BREAK stuff offer suggestions to the community how to fix it. Do not just tell the producer to fix it. If someone walks up to you and says "You aren't a good person fix it" It doesn't go very far into making you better. They need to tell you what needs fixed and suggest how it can be fixed in detail.

So, now that you have the chance, stop beating a dead horse (this topic) and wasting peoples time. Make some suggestions to the community to fix the stuff you want to be better. Obviously, you desire a better game. If you really do want it to get better step up to the plate and innovate some of your own ideas instead of telling the developer to bring back stuff people hate.

As for the vote thing, I already explained why people disagree with your topic. If you still don't get it that's your problem not mine.

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I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was. Happy? And no, I won't stop. Sorry.

Get rid of abyssea. Yeah, how do you intend to implement that? Every new player that starts from now on will never be able to get any of the gear that comes from abyssea, while 99.9% of everyone else's inventory is bursting at the seams with gear? How do you suggest that these new players will get a voidwatch party with gimp level 75 gear?

Or are you planning on wiping away every level, gil and item that 300k players have obtained over the last 2 years? If you don't see how much your idea would kill the game, all hope might be lost for you.

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I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was. Happy? And no, I won't stop. Sorry.

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Well as for that solution i can honestly say it aint ever gonna happen.. deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was. Happy? And no, I won't stop. Sorry.

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The your quote above makes it clear why the developers and other readers should/will ignore your request. Failed logic with arrogance at this scale proves so many points others have made in this topic.

You can, defend your argument until cows lactate gasoline, It won't matter because you can't innovate something productive enough to solve the problems you want fixed. In general, you invalidate your entire argument. Anyone with a inkling of intelligence would realize listening to you would prove more destructive then beneficial.

It's also apparent, that you lack the creditability I initially gave you to argue your point. There is nothing to see here guys and gals. I do hope some of those people who clicked like on your topic post QUICKLY rationalize their choice.

For others reading this, please go and click like on the 3rd post in this topic that says. "There is no disagree button." The developers don't need people like this giving them suggestions to make the game worse.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was. Happy? And no, I won't stop. Sorry.

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Bad game design is never a solution. Never.

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

All I saw was a link to a forum regarding a game that was not FFXI and is therefor not relevant to this discussion.

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Ahh I didn't catch this, it's not even FFXI!! it's 14 LOL. TY for bringing this to my attention.

This quote below still rings WTF.

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I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was. Happy? And no, I won't stop. Sorry.

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The your quote above makes it clear why the developers and other readers should/will ignore your request. Failed logic with arrogance at this scale proves so many points others have made in this topic.

You can, defend your argument until cows lactate gasoline, It won't matter because you can't innovate something productive enough to solve the problems you want fixed. In general, you invalidate your entire argument. Anyone with a inkling of intelligence would realize listening to you would prove more destructive then beneficial.

It's also apparent, that you lack the creditability I initially gave you to argue your point. There is nothing to see here guys and gals. I do hope some of those people who clicked like on your topic post QUICKLY rationalize their choice.

For others reading this, please go and click like on the 3rd post in this topic that says. "There is no disagree button." The developers don't need people like this giving them suggestions to make the game worse.

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This isn't my topic, if you haven't noticed (Anyone with an inkling of intelligence can see that). I'm just the one that refuses to let it die, because that's exactly what you want, and if you were smart about it you'd let it go and stop replying. All you're doing at this point is arguing subjectivity and keeping the thread on top where the devs can see it.

Of course listening to me is destructive. See "subjective".

Let's go back to 2 - 2.5k per hour parties. Everyone will surely enjoy the 560 to 700 hours of xping to get a single job from 75 to 99. Or we could play though what, 10 rpgs?

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This isn't my topic, if you haven't noticed (Anyone with an inkling of intelligence can see that). I'm just the one that refuses to let it die, because that's exactly what you want, and if you were smart about it you'd let it go and stop replying. All you're doing at this point is arguing subjectivity and keeping the thread on top where the devs can see it.

Of course listening to me is destructive. See "subjective".

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This is my intention, to show people this >>

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I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was. Happy? And no, I won't stop. Sorry.

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Wow, WTF.. Either way win win.

A simple way to explain it. FFXIV and FFXI are different games. I have never experienced FFXIV, however looking at that post you directed us to it seems as if partly why they wish it changed is due to small amounts of endgame content or not much being added. 2.0 is likely the reason for this so their request does make some sense, if they are stuck with small amounts of content then at least draw it out a lil that way they can have something to do till 2.0. Now this is not the same as FFXI, here we have alot of endgame. We have Abyssea, we have Voidwatch, we have Neo-Dynamis/Nyzul/Limbus/Einherjar/(soon to be)Salvage, we have Legion. There is some I didn't list as well, some you can arguably call endgame or not such as PW, AV, and even Kirin. We have endgame, lots of it, a new expansion even focused on endgame. We are not suffering the same thing, and its not the same game.

Your point you tried to make by that is pointless in my opinion. However I will agree in 1 aspect of it, likes do matter. Not nearly as much as they could, because yes, some people will blindly "like" a post, but alot of cases, it shows how many people agree with you. In this thread, you have 6 Likes on post 1, which was presenting the same idea you are fighting for, and there is post 3 with 31 Likes, which was against the idea you & the OP seem to share. Now if it were 6 and 7, or 30 and 33, I might say you have some even ground, or blind likes could effect it. But your talking 6 vs 30, 5 times more people agree that they want a dislike button for this idea, than the amount of people who like the idea.

Sarick you may as well just give up. There's no sense in arguing with a child or an adult with a child's intellect (whichever the case may be).

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A simple way to explain it. FFXIV and FFXI are different games. I have never experienced FFXIV, however looking at that post you directed us to it seems as if partly why they wish it changed is due to small amounts of endgame content or not much being added.

Your point you tried to make by that is pointless in my opinion. However I will agree in 1 aspect of it, likes do matter. Not nearly as much as they could, because yes, some people will blindly "like" a post, but alot of cases, it shows how many people agree with you. In this thread, you have 6 Likes on post 1, which was presenting the same idea you are fighting for, and there is post 3 with 31 Likes, which was against the idea you & the OP seem to share. Now if it were 6 and 7, or 30 and 33, I might say you have some even ground, or blind likes could effect it. But your talking 6 vs 30, 5 times more people agree that they want a dislike button for this idea, than the amount of people who like the idea.

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Different games with the same problem. You have the people that liked this game for what it was circa 2005 that jumped into XIV expecting the same, and instead what they got was FFXI 2012. They don't like it. Add up the 119 likes in that post versus all those likes you account for in your second paragraph. You said all you had to say about the subject when you said, "I've never played 14". Therefore, you have no opinion about 14.

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Originally Posted by Lynchilles

Sarick you may as well just give up. There's no sense in arguing with a child or an adult with a child's intellect (whichever the case may be).

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Oh, I guess I'm a child now because I can hold a debate without tossing out insults? Absurd.

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

Bad game design is never a solution. Never.

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Funny how this worked out for FFXI for 10 years didn't it? Notice how people will gladly say x, y, z is bad about FFXI..yet here we are 10 years later.

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Oh, I guess I'm a child now because I can hold a debate without tossing out insults? Absurd.

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Where did I say it was you? Thanks for proving my point :)

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I can make a solution. Get rid of Abyssea and auto-repeat book pages. Take it back to the way it was.

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I'm sorry, are you trying to be taken seriously here? This is a moronic idea.

You still don't seem to get it, the option to party exactly in this fashion still exists. Go do it and stop bothering the rest of us, will you?

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Where did I say it was you? Thanks for proving my point :)

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It's okay, you can come out and say it. Don't be afraid. It's not like there were 20 others in the major minority in this thread the last 10 pages.

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Different games with the same problem. You have the people that liked this game for what it was circa 2005 that jumped into XIV expecting the same, and instead what they got was FFXI 2012. They don't like it. Add up the 119 likes in that post versus all those likes you account for in your second paragraph. You said all you had to say about the subject when you said, "I've never played 14". Therefore, you have no opinion about 14.

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Your right, I do not, and as I said they are different games. Nothing you say can change the fact they are different games. Different things apply to different games, and different amounts of people want different things for different games. An example of this, is in fact this thread. There, 119 people that jumped up and down with glee at the idea of it happening, here, 6 did. Now I don't honestly feel like looking for a post in the thread for a different game that says they don't like the idea, but Ill tell you this much, here, your idea is unpopular, and thats for this game, not a different one.

Something to take away from this post is that they are in fact different. Now, that community seems to be where you belong, so why not move there? Get away from FFXI, leave the people here who want it as it is, and join those who have your same ideals over on the other game, one which I am sure is getting more work and attention and this game is.

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Your right, I do not, and as I said they are different games. Nothing you say can change the fact they are different games. Different things apply to different games, and different amounts of people want different things for different games. An example of this, is in fact this thread. There, 119 people that jumped up and down with glee at the idea of it happening, here, 6 did. Now I don't honestly feel like looking for a post in the thread for a different game that says they don't like the idea, but Ill tell you this much, here, your idea is unpopular, and thats for this game, not a different one.

Something to take away from this post is that they are in fact different. Now, that community seems to be where you belong, so why not move there? Get away from FFXI, leave the people here who want it as it is, and join those who have your same ideals over on the other game, one which I am sure is getting more work and attention and this game is.

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You know, for the people of the minority in your corner on the 14 boards, this is exactly what they had to say as well. "Go away and leave us alone, masochist! Go find another game to play!" So, here I am. Maybe you're right. Just shut them all down because they all fail at providing an entertaining, engaging experience that's got substance and difficulty from start to finish. Join us, or die, is that it?

EVE and Aion both do a way better job of giving you that 2005 FFXI feel than 2005 FFXI ever did. Maybe you should try them!

There's always Lineage 2!


Literally. The internet will shut down as we will have run out of natural resources through which to create electricity, and Lineage 2 will find a way to keep going.

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You know, for the people of the minority in your corner on the 14 boards, this is exactly what they had to say as well. "Go away and leave us alone, masochist! Go find another game to play!" So, here I am. Maybe you're right. Just shut them all down because they all fail at providing an entertaining, engaging experience that's got substance and difficulty from start to finish. Join us, or die, is that it?

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Yeah. Because the game isn't going to change to meet your personal expectations and interests. Enough people are happy with the direction the game has taken.

XIV is a different case because so many people were so unhappy with the game that they lost an incredible amount of players. We haven't had that sort of mass desertion in FFXI yet, so there's no reason to cater to people like you who romanticize the past simply because they've been gone too long to remember how bad some things truly were.

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Yeah. Because the game isn't going to change to meet your personal expectations and interests. Enough people are happy with the direction the game has taken.

XIV is a different case because so many people were so unhappy with the game that they lost an incredible amount of players. We haven't had that sort of mass desertion in FFXI yet, so there's no reason to cater to people like you who romanticize the past simply because they've been gone too long to remember how bad some things truly were.

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Well, in that case, don't expect me to go quietly.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

Oh, I guess I'm a child now because I can hold a debate without tossing out insults? Absurd.

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You're a child because you refuse to listen to reason and value your opinion over other peoples' and somehow think that's appropriate behavior.

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Well, in that case, don't expect me to go quietly.

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Why? it's not going to change anything. all you're doing is wasting your time and annoying people. The past few pages of this thread have shown you that a ton of people clearly don't agree with you.

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Well, in that case, don't expect me to go quietly.

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Go quietly or not, we don't care which. Just go.

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EVE and Aion both do a way better job of giving you that 2005 FFXI feel than 2005 FFXI ever did. Maybe you should try them!

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I'll second that recommendation for Aion. That game is grind-tastic. I spent a month playing it with some friends and could not for the life of me catch up to where they all were. No fast-track to level cap there.