Do you really think that little of your player base?

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Originally Posted by Zhronne

Just to clarify on this issue because I hate being misunderstood.
I never said that they should stop allowing us to gearswap or that the gearswap mechanic should disappear from the game.
I *love* gearswapping.

I just said that over the last year/years, because of several reasons, we kinda reached levels of "required" swapping which are ridiculous. What I'd love would be to keep gearswapping, just a bit less than I'm doin today.
Alas, this is impossible and will never happen because one of the main reasons why people (me included) gearswap so much is because SE added so many situational pieces which are awesome but you can only use in very specific spells/JAs/circumstances.

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Honestly if they gave us more inventory it wouldn't so bad imo, just because with more inventory we could hold everything without a problem. Gear like this actually helps make the game last longer in the end because we have more to hunt down and get if thats ones goal in the game.

I'd probably whine much less if I had, say, an inventory of at least 120 spots.
But there are circumstances where also blinking 5 times in a second can be annoying too (in before someone mentions BlinkMeNot).
Also some gearswaps, especially ones for mages, can sometimes be pretty complicated to handle without stuff like spellcast.

I feel fine about the gearswaps for my melee jobs, also because where possible I chose to go for the "compromise" of a gear which is slightly worse than another, but that I can use on 4-5 jobs instead than just one.
But on mage jobs urghhh it's a mess, and I'm not even a pro on mages, my SCH probably has 2/3 of the gear a "pro" SCH has.

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Originally Posted by Zhronne

Just to clarify on this issue because I hate being misunderstood.
I never said that they should stop allowing us to gearswap or that the gearswap mechanic should disappear from the game.
I *love* gearswapping.

I just said that over the last year/years, because of several reasons, we kinda reached levels of "required" swapping which are ridiculous. What I'd love would be to keep gearswapping, just a bit less than I'm doin today.
Alas, this is impossible and will never happen because one of the main reasons why people (me included) gearswap so much is because SE added so many situational pieces which are awesome but you can only use in very specific spells/JAs/circumstances.

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You misunderstand, that statement was directed at rosy since he marched in here and kicked in the door shouting "ERHMEHGAWD GEAR SWERPS ARE EVUL DERP"

Anyways talking about situational gear lets list off all the diffrent sets a job may need:

Rng:
Snapshot
Endshot
PDT/MDT
Movement Speed
Last Stand ws
Coronach ws
JA enhancing gear: barrage, shadowbind, bounty shot, few others but not worth bringing up.
Melee
Melee ws

Samurai:
TP
Shoha
Fudo
PDT/MDT
Meditate
Hasso/Siegen
hmmm... coulda sworn i used more sets on sam then this oh well.

Mage jobs:
Haste/fastcast
Spell interuption rate
Cure potency
Enhancing
Enfeebling
Dark magic gear (drain/aspir gear)
Nuking (to include a minimum of 8 variations with staff and belt)
PDT/MDT
Refresh
MP while Healing (HMP)
Depending on the job individual JA augmenting peices.
Did i miss anything for mages?

Either way point is to be the top of your game you'd be employing most of these sets for each job, mages especially.

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Originally Posted by Nala

Did i miss anything for mages?

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Specific gear for specific jobs. -BP, SMN skill, BP physical, BP magical for SMN. -song cast, -song recast, +skill, +macc/+chr for BRD. But then again these jobs tipically don't need other sets you listed like Enfeebling, Enhancing, Elemental etc.

I think you listed everything. I don't even have some of those sets for example, didn't want to bother (it has to be said though that I consider my mage jobs, tipically, as "secondary", so I don't really put on them the amount of attention I put on other jobs). Some of what you listed has several variations, or used to at 75.
I remember on BLMs in my shell had 3 main nuke sets years ago. One focusing on int, one on mab, one on accuracy/eleskill.
All of these had slight variations according to the specific spell (staff) etc.
On SCH I think I used to have only 2 nuking sets. One focusing on INT for Helixes, one focusing on mab for nukes.
I think I might have to look at them again though because a lot of gear changed and while those two sets were pretty different at start, they're probably almost identical by now.

As for the DD sets, they're usually more straightforward than mage ones. Some DDs have different TP sets though. One focusing on mobs which require extreme accuracy, Apoc DRKs have (or used to have?) different TP sets to cap their haste according to aftermath active or not, good MNKs should probably have at least 2 slightly different TP sets accoriding if Impetus is up or not (dunno if it's worth tbh) and stuff like that.
Oh and also idle/regen sets! Often mixed up with movement enhancing gear.

Enhancing magic set is 100% needed for any RDM, enfeebling should be a priority as well.

Damn, Rosina was so wrong it was painful.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

First off, they do not have to tell you how the game works behind the scenes. Thats sorta how hackers/exploiters get data to make hax and exploits.

Second, luck based systems been in rpg since table top. You sorta NEED them in rpg because if everything was 100% content would would become obsolete that much faster.

Lastly, as for job balance, the fault lies with you guys. You guys pretty much fk'ed with the system. Now SE has to scramble to pretty much balnce the game around you guys.

This game worked so much better when gear swaping wasn't the norm.

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wat

dribble aside, you guys are forgetting "fun" gear-sets/changes for more resistant mobs...which effectively double/triple your macros :/

What "fun" gear? I actually use my Ark Scythe. It's like 2004 again.. Sometimes my Entropys break 1k.

Anyways to elaborate i started this thread in hopes of enlightening the dev team exactly what kind of message they are sending the players.

That they are missing the point that you cannot fool us when you're just trying to BS, that your logic is constantly flawed and that the reasons you are giving are either excuses or made from plain ignorance on the way things are.

A grain of salt is order when it comes to our wants and suggestions but i can guarantee we know better then you what ails this game and while many fail to suggest work arounds and solutions, what few furnished are blatantly disgregarded, many suggestions may be off kilter, skewed or just plain off basis but at least look into the ones the player base is supporting, isn't that the reason we came up with these forums?

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Originally Posted by Kojo

What "fun" gear? I actually use my Ark Scythe. It's like 2004 again.. Sometimes my Entropys break 1k.

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i meant to say, annoying extra macros to push, if i'm fighting a mob that needs more acc/str/etc. to get good numbahs.

and i still haven't tried my scythe out yet...but my mooglesuit...
oh dear.