Leeching in video games. Good or bad?

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Originally Posted by Rosina

if you hate leveling why play rpg?

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THIS GAME IS NOT ABOUT LEVELING, holy bejesus

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Originally Posted by Rosina

And ya it can be a waste of space for a 10% difference.

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What in God's name do you need that inventory for? My BST has TP set, WS set, Reward set, and pet enhancement set and I still have like 15 slots.

BTW: That comment about you vs that NIN evading made me spit coke onto my monitor, very well done

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Originally Posted by Rosina

A bit of an fyi about my gear... it actually wasn't crap

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Everything you have told us thus far would suggest otherwise. I mean really, you were using atma of the Sea Daughter on a non-ranged job. That really says it all.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

spry vest, charis hands, hakka hachimaki (aka the +staff one) charis legs charis feet+1 double venrus daggers Charis feather. I forget what else. Atma I used was strongarm and sea daughter. I subed /thf for the heck of it. And i solo'ed khalamari and gangly gean for kicks. I pvp'ed with as a 90 dnc vs a 95 pup who mastered the job, but still held my own.

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Because I am bored...
1) Every single piece of gear you just listed is awful. Not just awful, but there was better gear at 75

2) Sea Daughter on a melee...... speaks for itself. Razed Ruins and Voracious Violet say Hi!

3) Subbing THF easily cut your damage and survivability by a third, if not more. For you not to even have a justification for it beyond "for the heck of it" makes Baby Jesus cry even more. ("Yea I use bone arrows on my RNG instead of antlion..... for the heck of it")

4) A naked level 80 DNC could solo Khalamari and Gangly Green (not with Stout Arm and Sea Daughter tho, lol)

5) Bragging about PvP is already one of the noobiest things a person can do, but bragging about one against a PUP? That you didn't even win!?


edit: Listen, I am not trying to single you out and/or make you feel bad. It's a learning experience this game. However, just like in real life, when someone flat out REFUSES to learn, and even belittles people who play correctly, you are going to be sought out and persecuted. If at any point you would just swallow your pride and admit where you are wrong, you could start to grow as a player and we would all respect you that much more. You would maybe see that you could be mistaken or misunderstand how game mechanics work.

I feel bad nearly every post you write gets torn down and set on fire, but at this point, it is the only way we know how to talk with you because we know you are not going to listen to anything we have to say.

Time out for a minute to let you know that for *support* (not DD) DNC, sea daughter is actually ridiculously good, as take that with VV and you can cure people all day long. You could hardly spend the TP faster than you get it.

Beyond that, totally agree with your entire post.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

if you hate leveling why play rpg?

leeching never was a blanket term so pardon me on that part.

And trust me i seen people encourage afk leeching. Not keywhoring or paying off ppl. A bit of an fyi about my gear... it actually wasn't crap. My eva was pretty high cuz of that gear/ sub choice so I barely got hit. I seen ninja with +2 full set get hit more then I did. I am not big on endgame so i really don't care about gear swapping. And ya it can be a waste of space for a 10% difference. I am a big rpg players and gears is pretty much the same on anyone of them Just a means of defence with small added bonuses to give you a SLIGHT edge.

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You realize that with your playstyle/Gear/Atma choice you are what you hate? Want it or not you are a leech in most of the end game situation.
If I shout for a Botulus Rex VW and see your gear, the first thing i'll do is give you a free D2 and just kick you. Why? Because you will end on the floor after 10s and be a leech for the whole run.
Try to understand the game mechanics before even complaining about other players because right now it just makes you a hypocrite.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gT1vJpzn67...p_leeching.jpg

You're 100% right rosina, I find leeching disgusting and unsightly!

I'm pretty sick of people playing my game and not doing it properly. It would be nice if people would just learn to play the frickin game and not use cheap tactics to get an edge (good luck beating me to a pop if you're still level 15 bcoz you got kicked for leeching!)

People who use gear swapping (WHICH GOES AGAINST THE VERY NATURE OF THE GAME!) are a close second. I'm sick and tired of these newbies in 11

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Originally Posted by Flionheart

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gT1vJpzn67...p_leeching.jpg

You're 100% right rosina, I find leeching disgusting and unsightly!

I'm pretty sick of people playing my game and not doing it properly. It would be nice if people would just learn to play the frickin game and not use cheap tactics to get an edge (good luck beating me to a pop if you're still level 15 bcoz you got kicked for leeching!)

People who use gear swapping (WHICH GOES AGAINST THE VERY NATURE OF THE GAME!) are a close second. I'm sick and tired of these newbies in 11

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due tell how gear swapping goes against the nature of the game...

Several pieces of gear that cater to full time use. If you think that gear swapping is how this game was DESIGNED then you're probably one of the scrubs who uses windower as a crutch.

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Originally Posted by Lotto

You realize that with your playstyle/Gear/Atma choice you are what you hate? Want it or not you are a leech in most of the end game situation.
If I shout for a Botulus Rex VW and see your gear, the first thing i'll do is give you a free D2 and just kick you. Why? Because you will end on the floor after 10s and be a leech for the whole run.
Try to understand the game mechanics before even complaining about other players because right now it just makes you a hypocrite.

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That is exactly what I was getting at in my previous post. Rosina is talking about how she can't wait for Legion - yet, with her playstyle she will be nothing but a leech should she get invited to a Legion run. Lack of gear swaps will make her a LOT less efficient in every way possible, likely to die multiple times from aoe damage, and she'll be the leech. Worst case scenario, someone with such a massively gimped playstyle might actually cause the party/alliance to wipe.

As for Botulus Rex, that's a bad example seeing as she apparently has no clue what voidwatch is.

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Originally Posted by Flionheart

Several pieces of gear that cater to full time use. If you think that gear swapping is how this game was DESIGNED then you're probably one of the scrubs who uses windower as a crutch.

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At first I thought you were joking, but with this post I can tell you're just a bad player and need to try and take your anger out on others. Having good gear swaps on a melee job, easily multiplies your damage output by 4, if not more. Gear swaps can be macro'd easily within the actual game, which shows it WAS designed like that.

And frankly, I feel bad for anyone that has to deal with your no-gearing-swapping-1-instrument-bard. It must be cool playing ballad in that +2 march horn for your mages, or whatever terrible decisions you make.