Victory smite nerf [dev1064]

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Originally Posted by Motenten

Per my pup spreadsheet calculations, using Bukhis target outside Abyssea, and using 15% base crit rate for Smite and 10% for Pummel, I have Smite at 1627 and Pummel at 1610 for a Taru (140 total str). For Elvaan (151 total str), 1699 for Smite, 1677 for Pummel. Overall, Smite has barely more than a 1% lead over Pummel. I don't see how you're ending up with numbers indicating a ~20% lead.

Regardless, Smite always felt rather weak when directly compared against Ukko's ludicrously high crit rates. At least we know that there's not a lot of room for them to nerf Smite (it's only ~5% above the general baseline for crit-based weaponskills), as compared to Ukko's. Dropping 5% crit rate from the above puts Taru at 1583 and Elvaan at 1654, putting Pummel about 1.5% ahead of Smite.

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Ah a voice of sanity that actually makes sense.

Says the guy talking about Pup destroying Mnk DD.

The good news is that now that they added a million things for people to upgrade in dynamis, Getting Spharai will probably be a lot easier now.

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Originally Posted by Dfoley

Ah a voice of sanity that actually makes sense.

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Noticed how he confirmed how VS is currently superior to SP in pure damage ?

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

The good news is that now that they added a million things for people to upgrade in dynamis, Getting Spharai will probably be a lot easier now.

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Only if you plan to buy everything. If you plan to farm everything (which is realistic is a few weeks with a BST on your main and a mule) then nope. Except maybe the forgotten item that seem to drops 6x less than coins. If the demands stays steady you caould use them to buy a part of your coins, however it still implie that you farm dynamis. Their prices is stable at 100k-150k I think it will stay at 100k because they are pretty rare and most people farming them keep them for their own use, as people seem to prefer farming EP for coins.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Noticed how he confirmed how VS is currently superior to SP in pure damage ?



Only if you plan to buy everything. If you plan to farm everything (which is realistic is a few weeks with a BST on your main and a mule) then nope. Except maybe the forgotten item that seem to drops 6x less than coins. If the demands stays steady you caould use them to buy a part of your coins, however it still implie that you farm dynamis. Their prices is stable at 100k-150k I think it will stay at 100k because they are pretty rare and most people farming them keep them for their own use, as people seem to prefer farming EP for coins.

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I was thinking more along the lines of being able to get big pick up groups that will come just for the forgotten items, and xp, and let you keep the currency. People need 20,000 xp with that gear on once they get it, so every zone is gonna be full of people eventually.

There are a lot of people who haven't touched dynamis since abyssea came out, who don't care about relic weapons, but will be wanting their relic gear upgrades just like before.

I just want to point out the fact that having an argument whether the VS nerf was a mnk or pup nerf is a new level of stupid for FFXI players.

Just saying.

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Originally Posted by xbobx

I just want to point out the fact that having an argument whether the VS nerf was a mnk or pup nerf is a new level of stupid for FFXI players.

Just saying.

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As sad as it sounds, I don't think that's true.

I think the fact that it affects pup at all is sorta telling. They could have just nerfed some monk ability if they wanted it to be monk only. Of course they are really careless, so the pup nerf may have just been a byproduct.

don't doubt a 99Pup's with a Lv.95 KKK ability to humble all mnks.
its easier to swallow if you're prepared with the reality of just how bad ass KKK is.

Can test lv95 KKK yourself on testserver if you want.
I guess in some specific situations a KKK PUP might outdamage a Vere/Spharai Monk, but I'm not really sure that can happen anytime anywhere and on any target...
Or maybe am I underestimating KKK's power? Which is definitely a lot, not denying that.