Why is it OK to have multiple bosses spawned but not normal force spawn NMs?

We can't forget what the OP said:

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Originally Posted by Armauk

... I always thought that the hardest part of fighting a notorious monster should be the fight itself....

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Is that not at least one of the greatest things we all loved about playing Final Fantasy games? Right now it's not. Right now the hardest part of the game can be contending with any number of unfair restrictions such as latency and geographic advantages, restrictions on player over-population causing delays between quest progression [non-instance environments], platform restrictions (i.e. PS2), and so on. It sounds deflating I know... but there's hope I'm sure!

I realize SE isn't ready to make FFXI-2 yet (an entire overhaul) but I do still believe much of our frustration (waiting on NM timers for example) can be fixed, all while keeping within the walls FFXI can structurally support (i.e. PS2). It just might take some logical thinking and small steps.

It would be great to have some Community Rep involvement on this thread :) Is it intentional for players to pay a penalty of earth time (by waiting) if we don't get the claim on either the "???" spawn point or spawned NM?

If the FFXI-Dev team answered yes (because say, it would be otherwise too easy), then i'd ask why not make access to the monster easier (as the OP suggested), and fighting the monster itself harder. On the other hand, if they answered yes because the game simply can't support it; say, 15 "???" spawn points at once, I'd be curious to know why, or challenge what could be removed to make room for it :) This gameplay mechanic really needs some careful discussion and could greatly improve a lot of content in Abyssea, it would be great to at least understand what is or isn't possible and some of the options of how it could work differently.

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Originally Posted by Swords

However, it's not perfect but SE introduced different ways of obtaining both seals and KI's. Every seal will drop from at least 3 different NM's, each +2 item will drop from at least 5 or 6 different NM's now, and PI and KI's for most of the more heavily camped NM's and the megabosses can all be obtained from gold chests. After a point, you don't really don't have an excuse other than you were unwilling to persue a different method for getting your seals, +2 items, or KI's.

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its not a matter of unwilling to get the pop items or KI's for NM's cause it may take longer to get said items from gold chest then it is to get from the mobs in general. My friend and i duo la thiene mega boss on a regular basis for our helms. the other day we ran into a jp pt that came in and took the ??? when we informed them we only had 1 pop left. both I and the other pt spammed our macro. I lost horribly every time since i live in MI. and wasted my time waiting to get pop because they bascilly said FU we own this zone. Having a permenat ??? that a pt can pop only once untill its dead or the multiple pops would easy the congestion alot time spawned NM should be the only NM that we have to "Fight" to claim not a force pop. we took our time to get the pops to fight the NM not other PPL. this kind of MMO has very little to do with pvp. we should work together to get stuff done not be dicks just to get our stuff.

the multiple bosses is nice. Unfortunately, all it did is shift the bottleneck down 1 tier to the pop NMs. Honestly, there's usually like 3 groups fighting over Minax now, Guk has his own freaking fan club, etc. It's the same in many of the zones. the VNM gained ones are just as bad with their pop rate being so slow and only a single instance up. Honestly, Think I might just toss my Pyf harp that I hoped to upgrade, colorless souls is gonna suck. Personally, I don't like making obtaining some end-game piece-and for only 1 of my jobs (and the one I only play because someone needs to)-the defining point of my life. Would it be nice to have? Sure. That said, given the choice I'm going to take my girlfriend over camping a VNM every time.

Or you can use "All seeing eye" and all the other annoying third party programs that are needed to keep up with the issue.
I've seen NA/EU out claim a ??? from JP's when I asked he said they had no choice but to use a 3rd party program. Mostly JPONRY issues tossing seals in front of them or us being typical JPONRY Rude but same with timed NM's Bots never died they just moved into gukumatz territory
Will the issue be addressed? I doubt it. I'm not trying to sound like a negative nancy but SE likes their roadblocks.
Those of us that play on the xbox or ps2/3 simply must suffer and wait and craft...
I also doubt we'll get a response from a community rep as they erroneously believe they have addressed this issue and well they believe no matter what they do its right and good for the community <Sarcasm>
Still a bit unnerved that crafting is all about synergy now and there is no plans to make any use of those of us in the 90-100 range of our crafts.