Voidwatch Final Chapter

I wasn't saying I would do it for drops, thats procing for lights and spending rubis and way more that I would be stupid enough to think RDM could do solo, but I would still do it for fun. I have been tryin to build up my RDM just so I can solo Goublefaupe, not because some magical thing happens when you solo him or because I have no friends who will help me with him. I want to solo him because I want to for fun/challenge, something this game has honestly lacked for me.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

It's for people that didn't do voidwatch so far because the event is an epic fail. It gives people like me the opportunity to catch up to the last stage quickly, although I don't see why I'd do so because it much faster for me to trade 2 marrows for 1 meteor or arise if I ever want them so explain me why I should do 50 VW waiting to outlot the other 18 ?

It's reeeeallly fail.

Honestly it's going to help the ticket market (plus they are AHable). Lot's of people will just clear all the path then buy as many tickets as they want for bodies. I mean you have to face it ; It's going to be easier getting 5 tickets than spamming 100x18 ally voidfail.

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Ill just say what I said back on page 33...

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Begone pest. Come back when you know how to judge gear other than for MNK alone.

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Except this time, really, go away, no one wants to hear your worthless BS because you think VW holds no gear worth getting, it does to other jobs, there are even some pieces for MNK I'm sure. Your just to stupid to see it. So Ill ask nicely, please, shut up, go away, and stop wasting both your, and our time, telling us how the gear we want is shitty and not worth getting.

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Originally Posted by Mahoro

Who does Prov Watcher in PUGs expressly for Meteor/Arise?

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Everyone including the ones that try self persuasion of the opposite on several forums like you.

He doesn't have access to provenance I'm guessing (since he said he didn't have clears), so he has to make it seem like the rest of the gear that's rare/ex is worthless. It makes him feel better inside.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Everyone including the ones that try self persuasion of the opposite on several forums like you.

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Lol...I don't do Prov Watcher in PUGs for Meteor and Arise. I got Arise through my LS for DKP, which is the main way I advocated to get it on those "several forums" you mention (another admission you read BG for info while simultaneously bashing them).

I don't honestly know who would subject themselves to a 1 hour set of 4 fights for a 1/18 chance of lotting something that is itself a 1-5/100 chance drop. Except for imaginary players you conjure up in strawman arguments designed for you to beat down. People who do Prov Watcher in PUGs go mainly for the other stuff which can appear in their chests. Freelotting scrolls that drop is a side benefit, not the ultimate goal. They don't go on the run expressly for that reason.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Everyone including the ones that try self persuasion of the opposite on several forums like you.

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That makes alot of sense, ya know, cause no one wants any of the gear...

Sanus Ensis is a badass sword, healing power on a sword means its another push in the right direction for that left behind job once known as RDM. Not only that but it has good stats for melee too, and overall its worth the effort imo.

Plenitas Virga, well as we talked about with blue procing MNKs, this staff is great for that, also its not bad if your a BLM looking to break out that Merit WS and have the nice INT boost your damage!

The Adamas is welcome to any and all PLDs who do not have an Ochain or Aegis yet, but still wish to play their PLD and play it well.

Hyaline Hat is a nice FC piece, and doubles as an enfeebling piece due to the magic acc, and high INT/MND on it.

Drachenhorn is nice for Attack due to its +5% attack, and makes for an excellent WS piece due to the STR DEX VIT INT & MND, there are very few WSs this ISNT good for.

Tessera Saio is amazing for THF especially with a Mandau, that is probably the best WS body they could hope for. It helps COR & RNG with its high Attack, RAttack, STR, AGI, and MAB.

I really don't see the need to list the Abj gear, needless to say, it has its uses, your ideals about people doing this fight for 1 of 2 spells to possibly drop, and for them to try to out lot the others is stupid. Who the hell would go out of their way to make an alliance, fight 3 fights against 2 Caturae each time, just to fight an annoying crystal dragon, and HOPE, that after all this work, they might, just might, see it drop, so that they can lot on it, and again, HOPE they get a higher number than everyone else in the alliance?

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Originally Posted by Helel

He doesn't have access to provenance I'm guessing (since he said he didn't have clears), so he has to make it seem like the rest of the gear that's rare/ex is worthless. It makes him feel better inside.

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This is about the most correct thing I think I have heard about his views on VW. Unwillingness to subject ones self to the poor drop rates of VW and thus the avoidance of admitting any gear in it is worth any time what-so-ever. In this way avoiding the potential of wanting such gear and thus avoiding subjecting ones self to hours of torture and grief for a single piece of gear, or the slight chance you may get lucky and it pop up fast & easy.

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I suppose it could also help the 18-man PUGs who have trouble defeating some of the big bads. Only the popper loses weakening items, so each person in the 18-man PUG can take turns using 1 or 2 items to decrease the difficulty for all. For example, 18 rounds of Rex, 3 runs of 6 each, each person in the PUG pays 200k total for all 18 fights.

inb4 200k is big moniez....

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Haha hard enough getting 18 people together for four runs, much less 18 runs. Although I guess if the items make it easy enough, lights auto-capped and procs reducing the NMs offensive power, you could do it as a shell with 12~14 people and not have to worry about filling the last few spots with /shout peoples. I've seen very few pure PUGs for rex, most involve a core group of 4~6 people who are organizing it and filling out the spots.

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Originally Posted by saevel

Haha hard enough getting 18 people together for four runs, much less 18 runs. Although I guess if the items make it easy enough, lights auto-capped and procs reducing the NMs offensive power, you could do it as a shell with 12~14 people and not have to worry about filling the last few spots with /shout peoples. I've seen very few pure PUGs for rex, most involve a core group of 4~6 people who are organizing it and filling out the spots.

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Although I will say this is correct, I will also say people on Phoenix are getting a little more... bold... in their shouts, as there are partys for Kaggen & Qilin that have been shouting for 18(6+6+6) shouts, and even though they are back in Jeuno a hour later shouting for reps, point still stands people are trying to increase the numbers a little, with time, might just get it to happen with Kala or Rex, if people don't come for 9 kills, see its their turn, and duck out because they don't wanna pay 100~300k.

The fights will be easier and faster with the weakening items. I doubt you will have much trouble convincing people even in PUGs to stay for 12+ fights when it is to their advantage to remain in a group that is committing to weaken the mob for each other. If some people leave after 6-12 runs, who cares? it isn't like you didn't derive the benefit of using the weakening items yourself on the runs the PUG stayed together for before breaking up.

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Originally Posted by Mahoro

The fights will be easier and faster with the weakening items. I doubt you will have much trouble convincing people even in PUGs to stay for 12+ fights when it is to their advantage to remain in a group that is committing to weaken the mob for each other. If some people leave after 6-12 runs, who cares? it isn't like you didn't derive the benefit of using the weakening items yourself on the runs the PUG stayed together for before breaking up.

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Well it is kinda unfair if someone would join a Kalasutrax shout, someone gets pants & Helm, then before its their turn to pop up with the weakened items, they duck out and got everything they wanted without the weakening everyone else did for them to get it. Also you cant go with the idea of giving everyones money to 1 person because people will obviously try to scam you with it. And lastly since the person popping MUST be the person weakening it as well, this flaws many NMs, such as Aello, where pets suck to deal with without a PLD popping on spawn, but if someone else pops, things can goto hell fast.