FINAL FANTASY XI Job Adjustments Manifesto: Paladin

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Originally Posted by AldielQuetz

If PLD is supposed to be a tank then give it what a tank needs

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something to tank?

Um not everything. Let's not use rash generalizations please.@ Cursed

And to be honest, there does need to be some reworking/rethinking of the hate mechanics.

Here's why!

The game at 75 cap, when that was something new, not something stagnant, had a hate ceiling that a DD even with the best gear just touched the surface of right before they would get eaten, since the WHM was focused on the, you guessed it, the PLD. The one job that could continue to keep pushing his/her hate to the cap and regain it even when a DD surged in damage output.

Then comes the 2hander update, throw in some salvage gear, add a little more spells to support and BOOM DDs are really making it hard to hold hate BUT we had atonement(simplest fix for PLD is the elephant in the room) so it's still relatively easy to hold hate except for in Zerg situations.

Now, add the remaining 24 levels of the games already sitting at peak armor, jobs... More attack and accuracy naturally from skill, more from innate STR DEX etc... And all of a sudden, what do we see? EVERYONE FLOATS TO THE TOP OF THE POOL, the deep end isn't so deep is it when you go from being 2 feet tall to 12 now is it? Like Liono in last weeks ThunderCats(you said HOoooooo in your head, you know you did). We need Panthro(AKA SE) to take the grate off the top so we don't drown in the mediocrity that has become known as...

PLD.

Help, please.. We're drowning in lamesauce.. Enhance us, improve us, just stop quoting the balance handbook and throw us the life preserver.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by AldielQuetz

If PLD is supposed to be a tank then give it what a tank needs, that's not broken, it's fair.

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You'll be happy to know that more monsters who hit hard enough to make life unpleasant for melee jobs are coming up in the next tier of VoidWatch! As a bonus, some spawn weak minions over and over, so you might even get a chance to super-tank!

i don't dispute PLD is in desperate need of some changes or the job will remain doomed to be used periodically around the release of new content, and then sent back to the eternal black depths of the MH once the SAM/WAR/MNK/NINs catch up.

and AldielQuetz - everything. Either on this thread, or another on the PLD forums, or on another site. E v e r y t h i n g that can be mentioned/suggested has already been put forward. these topics have been going on for 6 months at least.

How about being creative and talk about something you would like implemented? That would be great since calling other peoples thoughts unoriginal and regurgitated isn't helping us get where we need to be.

More ideas Cursed, that's what we need and a positive outlook!

Thanks

I didn't call anyone's thoughts "unoriginal" or "regurgitated". Simply stating that there are 34 previous pages of posts and maybe even 35 other different "FIX PLD / the Plight of PLD" threads on the forum.

I think if SE don't get it by now, they never will.
PLD was horribly retarded from years 2003-2006sh - see terra staff PLD tanking.
It took them 3 years of PLD sucking absolute poopoo for them to "fix" PLD the first time round, it might take that long this time.

As Someone who hasn't been a pld very long it's easy to see the flaws and perhaps find ways to fix them.

Sentinel should last 1 minute (or be reduced to 3 min recast) and freeze enmity from falling while allowing it to increase if need be.

Rampart should last at least 1 minute.

Fealty should last at least 2 minutes. So it's useful for more than 1 move. Should erase status effects already on

Pple say DMg is fine with almace but I don't have one yet. Perhaps a pld could receive a haste effect to an ability this could help with pld being so slow to deal much DMg. Such as 10% of tp consumed during chivalry. Caps at 20%. Again lower the flipping timer plz. Too much waiting on analogies with pld. Makes me miss my jumps on drg

Palisade could also act like a provoke.

Dev Said it would be boring if pld always held hate. But that's how we were supposed to play the game for the first 7-8 years. And isn't that the plds sole purpose.

yeah we know they've been mentioned before, in other threads, for years. that's the problem. any number of possible fixes for the system, none implemented.

We need some positive change implemented!

Help us out!

<call> Camate - We've created so many threads about fixing PLD, we've suggested every possible idea. You and the Devs need to respond. This silence from SE doesn't help.

EDIT: Yes I know you've responded to the PLD ideas. However, the ideas you responded to were actually the worst. There are a lot of other ideas.