Hvergelmir WTF SE

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Again, Dallas showing he doesn't actually play SMN

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During three fights that drop nothing of any use to anyone? No, they have you for those worthless events.

Al, it's the same people, same discussion as last time. When I choose to abandon it, it will die again.

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Al, it's the same people, same discussion as last time. When I choose to abandon it, it will die again.

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I'm pretty sure that's what people want, deep down in their hearts, even if they don't show it.

And none of them have any vested interest in playing SMN at its limits. Not my problem. Why you think it is your problem is anyone's guess.

I think he just doesn't like you

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Originally Posted by Dallas

And none of them have any vested interest in playing SMN at its limits. Not my problem. Why you think it is your problem is anyone's guess.

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its my/our problem because your continuation of threads like this serves no purpose. You're trying to convince people of something they have made up their minds on. It's a waste of your time and a waste of everyone else's. The only reason they allow it to continue is because they enjoy watching you post things that they think make you look... bad, for lack of a forum-appropriate term.

Besides, Dallas doesn't realize that I have a Hvergelmir now.

I just use it as a town piece. It is still useless inside and outside of Abyssea.

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I find that Hvergelmir isn't useless on the SMNs I see use it...

Do they ever engage in the actual fight? No, they're not stupid.

They TP pre fight, burn through their MP, pop myrkr, and then switch staves/use meds.

I mean if you're going to hit something, why bring a stick to an axe fight

It does come down to how you use it. With Hvergelmir 85, I've found myself doing near equal damage with avatar normal attacks, but it's still the best ideal to let the avatars deal a bit of damage or open with a blood pact before going in. Basically sticking with the concept of being melee smn still.

It is a great weapon for campaign though. I've always enjoyed being on smn more doing those but now more than ever. In older endgame content, it's is possible for smn to build TP through meleeing regularly, like in Dynamis... though I wouldn't suggest it on mega and arch bosses.

Sora, LLH said no, so stop it! Why can't we all just do half damage and get along?