Suggestion: Aby proc cells

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Why would they be far more expensive than paying someone to do it for you? I didn't know you had inside information from SE about how much they would cost.

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You have to remember, this is the same bunch of people that thought that letting us exchange a crystal petrifact for 100 cruor (even before they made cruor utterly worthless) was a worthwhile implementation, or that 100k gil for a single voidwatch weakening item was a fair trade. I think some educated guesses can be made on how much these hypothetical Abyssea auto-proc items would be.

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Originally Posted by Elphy

Speaking from experience, its not the system its the playerbase. And those calling us lazy or whatever are the ones with mutliple empys, nni/+2/etc gear, all their atmas/wins/lvls and got most of it when aby was fresh and new and it was cake to find ppl to participate and help

Been back for months and still no ls, they disband within a week or two due to lack of ppl on or they have been together so long they are not taking ppl, esp those of us who do not have all our prime gear yet.

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I would agree with most of your posting. Making new friends are hard and easy. It is easy to meet random people due to the nature of GoV and abyssea alliance style party. But it is harder to make meaningful "online friendship". But you can't be the only person who needs seals in the server, or plus 2. Farming KI only need one or two other person. It is far more important that you are leveling jobs that are useful in farming, ninja, warrior, thf, bst, blue, smn, whm and blm. A Whm and Ninja or Warrior is all you need for KI farm. Thf + Blue + Whm all you need for charged whiskers set up. Most new returning players have no clue though, they don't bother to read up, when someone is giving them shortcut easy suggestion they ignore them and proceed leveling useless jobs in abysea farm such as dark, ranger, dragoon, etc just because they love those jobs.

Plus 2 farming is depending on your playstyle. If you want more relaxed way, make a smn + bst and have a blm (who also have a bard and blue job) to proc for you. At the very minimum, smn and blm combo can easily tank and proc, it's a bit slower kill, but less of a headache. If you rather go head on, thief, ninja, monk and dancer works fine for tanking, with a whm to cure - but you will need your proc job or go on lights day.

At the very minimum you need ONE other person to help you. Or you can dual or triple box :)

Proc'ing weakness is about as inconveniencing as having to reduce a monsters HP. It's a game mechanic, and it doesn't even extend to every single NM in the game.

It's like saying that you should be able to use an item to reduce an NMs max HP because you can't be arsed to gather enough DD to kill it.

Except all mobs in the game require that you reduce their HP really, and that most do not have a time limit so your ability to reduce a mobs HP is only limited by your own patience, strong auto-regen, or your own inability to kill it before it kills you.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Except all mobs in the game require that you reduce their HP really, and that most do not have a time limit so your ability to reduce a mobs HP is only limited by your own patience, strong auto-regen, or your own inability to kill it before it kills you.

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Same could be said about any Abyssea NM that doesn't rage. Or will you argue your inability to generate time by capping lights and farming chests before starting the fight?

Except, your able to kill the NM solo, it just has a built in system designed that screw most solo players, meaning even though you can kill it you have to spam it a ton of times thanks to being unable to find other players willing to do it with you while drops are as low as singles or doubles with a 1/4 change at the one you need/want.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Except, your able to kill the NM solo, it just has a built in system designed that screw most solo players, meaning even though you can kill it you have to spam it a ton of times thanks to being unable to find other players willing to do it with you while drops are as low as singles or doubles with a 1/4 change at the one you need/want.

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You mean like really low drop rates on items? Or how about the NMs that drop 1 item or another and the split isn't a straight 50/50 chance?

Low drop rates suck in general, the fact that your drop rate is tied to your ability to get 1 friend to come along to cast a few spells on it then stand there looking derpy, is also stupid.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Low drop rates suck in general, the fact that your drop rate is tied to your ability to get 1 friend to come along to cast a few spells on it then stand there looking derpy, is also stupid.

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Semantics, both systems arguably suck. Honestly I'd take the proc system that encourages playing with others over a system that relies on praying TH decided to be on my side.

Depends on the situation. If others are willing to do it with me, I am all for procs, if I am doing old content no one wants to touch because they already finished it, I would rather go with better drop rates that depend on TH.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Depends on the situation. If others are willing to do it with me, I am all for procs, if I am doing old content no one wants to touch because they already finished it, I would rather go with better drop rates that depend on TH.

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If VW is any indicator, better drop rates will never happen. Don't get me wrong I get the point of not making everything 100% but it's such a BS artificial way to extend the life of a given event.

The only thing great about this idea is to let us buy a pop item to pop those heavily camped NM that is on 10-15 mnts timer. I don't see any problem whatsoever on everything else, since really, you only need 1-2 other people. All hand, feet, legs, and head seals are quite easy to solo. TH really does bring much luck for random 1-2 seal drops without proc. I understand a lot of the returning players or newbies who got left in the dust during abyssea gold rush are scrambling trying to find people to team up. But honestly I hardly find it a problem for me to find random strangers trying to solo the NMs and simply ask them to team up. Having a blm and blue leveled are quite handy, as usual being versatile helps making you more useful when trying to low man abyssea.