High Level mobs in beginner areas

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Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi

whats so hard about buying a few potions for sneak and invisible now that the AH is merged this should be easy to acquire, i want the game to assist new players but way does everything have to be spoon fed.

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Here on Asura a stack of of prism powder and silent oils cost a total of 27k not exactly chump change for new players. doesnt help matter that the spell invisible is 40k. Although i personally think the invis price is grossly inflated i would still call it an investment compared to the stealth meds, however the 27k you spend on the meds is better spent on gear. doesnt help matters that singles of stealth meds are 3k. I get that this might be an instance of saying tough luck but still... its a bit of a tall order no?

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Originally Posted by Alpheus

Here on Asura a stack of of prism powder and silent oils cost a total of 27k not exactly chump change for new players. doesnt help matter that the spell invisible is 40k. Although i personally think the invis price is grossly inflated i would still call it an investment compared to the stealth meds, however the 27k you spend on the meds is better spent on gear. doesnt help matters that singles of stealth meds are 3k. I get that this might be an instance of saying tough luck but still... its a bit of a tall order no?

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People do tend to lose sight of this. 27k, 40k? This is all negligible money to those of us who have been playing for years now, especially with the kind of money we can make just poking at stuff in Abyssea. But to a new player? Money is extremely scarce and very difficult to manage. Vital spells like this going for 40k is insane, since no new player is going to be able to afford this when they need it most. And yea, I've never known a new player in all my years of playing either that's had money to burn on consumables along with everything else they need to buy.

I mean I understand why Invisible is 40k. Same reason Raise III is going for 800k or something now.. No one is doing the content anymore to get the drop for it regularly. And because it's not available in bulk anymore, it becomes a rarity - and that means the value goes up. But that really just means this is a fault of SE's dated design more than anything else.. Certain spells need to either be vendored, or added to new NM's\more mobs. A lot of spells are also BC'd only, which is just insane in my opinion - back in the day when people were burning seals like mad it didn't matter, it worked out okay, these days not so much.. Vital spells from BC's end up costing a fortune to buy, and I don't really think new players can be expected to BC grind. (Both for lack of seals, and also for lack of aid and experience.)

A lot of the game design was fine before, it's not so fine now. And it's not even so much about things needing to be easier for new players so much as things needing to be realistic for new players. A lot of what's in the game currently isn't realistic at all without some help from a higher level player. (In terms of direct assistance, or indirect - such as a friend giving you a sizable amount of money to start off with.)

None of these issues apply to me since I'm long past all of this, and I know the game well enough anyway to where I can start a new character and know exactly what I'm getting myself into. But to brand new players? Ugh, I pity them.

Damn straight. I am not being "spoon fed", I'm a new player with a now level 30 max character, gil is still rough to come by as every penny I earn I spend on new spells since the levels are going so fast I'm having trouble keeping up with the spells, and as result I'm still wearing level 10 gear (which isn't too bad as I'm levelling mostly in the dunes on sync anyways.) There is no chance in hell I can afford your 30-40k sneak/invis pots, nor your 45k invis scroll, for a mission that's done in a level 7 dungeon and will result in certain death once the mission objective is found.