Make the Relic and Empyrean WSs Questable

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Originally Posted by Nvr

Why not have WoE Weapon or Empy weapon be the item you need to obtain and do the quest with to unlock Empy WS? Much like the Nyzul weapons needing to be obtained and then used to break latent.

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No.

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

some of the empy ws are far too powerful to be in the hands of the dumb. smite, hi, ukkos, fudo come to mind.

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I'm going to agree with TearV here.

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

some of the empy ws are far too powerful to be in the hands of the dumb. smite, hi, ukkos, fudo come to mind.

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Considering most bandwagon mnks, nins, and wars usually have WoE or empy weapons, I actually consider this a moot point.

I don't understand this topic. The Empyrean and Relic weaponskills are questable.

The one thing I hate is how much money is required just to get the Relic weapon... Ugh man F getting it I'll just go with Empy like everyone else I suppose.. and people wonder why empy is better .. because its questable and not super lame expensive to make.

I can't wait to see a full perle DRK with scythe of trials spamming catastrophe to get capped haste to justify the full perle

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Originally Posted by Afrohatch

I can't wait to see a full perle DRK with scythe of trials spamming catastrophe to get capped haste to justify the full perle

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The Aftermath is only for Stage4/5, so that wouldn't be a problem. Well the gimp DRK using a gimp WS will be but they won't be getting haste from it. :x

Touche. It's still a terrible idea though

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Originally Posted by svengalis

I don't understand this topic. The Empyrean and Relic weaponskills are questable.

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has to be a joke

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

some of the empy ws are far too powerful to be in the hands of the dumb. smite, hi, ukkos, fudo come to mind.

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Which is why you stick to Drakesbane, right TearValerin?

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Originally Posted by Airenn

Which is why you stick to Drakesbane, right TearValerin?

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Naw, Camlann's Torment is probably better since Drakesbane has such a low fTP and WSC that it can't compare to Empyrean WS. Ukko's and Victory Smite are just cheating compared to a 4-hit 50% STR Critical WS.