New Weapon Skills

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

I Skillchain on my WAR quite often in Delve, I made a priority of knowing every single WS I could Skillchain with that is commonly used in Delve for that reason. I never see my Skillchain on WAR exceed the DMG of the second WS in the chain. I never remember Skillchains, without a form of Skillchain Bonus, doing more DMG than that of the WS that triggered the Skillchain itself.

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yep prev SoA just did the SC with a THF Exe + Shijin
http://s1.directupload.net/images/130902/bfddgerf.png
I'm going to make SS of my future SC's as soon i see this happens again

Mnk gets Skillchain Bonus II JT.

4495 x 1.12 = 5034~

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Originally Posted by Creelo

Mnk gets Skillchain Bonus II JT.

4495 x 1.12 = 5034~

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Beat me to it, thank you.

Easiest way to check what jobs have this trait is here. If you intend to prove me wrong on how Skillchains work, please make sure that the job and gear you are Skillchaining on/with are not giving you this effect.

Like I said, so far as Skillchains are right now, the WS that closes the SC matches the DMG of the SC, for that reason, unless they made special WSs which work with SCs in a special way, WSs will always be about their own spike DMG, and SCs will be a bonus.

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Originally Posted by Creelo

Mnk gets Skillchain Bonus II JT.

4495 x 1.12 = 5034~

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this makes sense now ty :D

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Beat me to it, thank you.

Easiest way to check what jobs have this trait is here. If you intend to prove me wrong on how Skillchains work, please make sure that the job and gear you are Skillchaining on/with are not giving you this effect.

Like I said, so far as Skillchains are right now, the WS that closes the SC matches the DMG of the SC, for that reason, unless they made special WSs which work with SCs in a special way, WSs will always be about their own spike DMG, and SCs will be a bonus.

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i guess i was wrong this time i didn know about this JT before must be happend while i had a break from FFXI to much focus on Catchup & stuff

Besides a random fight or two, skillchains haven't been "the idea" in years.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

There isn't a lot of room for improvement on WSs besides the ones which simply are bad due to easily fixable flaws that were intentionally designed into the WS itself. For instance, no merit WS is a crit WS, none of them so far as I know can crit, which sucks. Req is built with a -20% Attack penalty, yet, all of the jobs which primarily use swords are on the lower end of attack besides possibly BLU. There are random mods on some of them like AGI or INT, which are flat out not helpful for the WS.

If they made new WSs for every type of weapon, they would need to either have bonus effects which make them better, crit, or move above 100% mods. All of which sound unlikely to me, but I wouldn't object to new WSs either way.

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FTP exists, so there's really no upper bound on how powerful SE can make a weaponskill.


whether or not they SHOULD is another discussion, but there is just about infinite room for improvement if you wanna talk theory.

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Originally Posted by Kriegsgott

thats not true you should SC more often sometimes a SC does more dmg as your lets say 7k ws dmg

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ecxept that SCs are getting now resisted when you fight anything remotly hard since the m.acc of the SCs didnt get bumped up with ilvl weapons! duh.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Beat me to it, thank you.

Easiest way to check what jobs have this trait is here. If you intend to prove me wrong on how Skillchains work, please make sure that the job and gear you are Skillchaining on/with are not giving you this effect.

Like I said, so far as Skillchains are right now, the WS that closes the SC matches the DMG of the SC, for that reason, unless they made special WSs which work with SCs in a special way, WSs will always be about their own spike DMG, and SCs will be a bonus.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought SC gained increased dmg if it was done in steps beyond 2 wses.

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Originally Posted by Rekin

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought SC gained increased dmg if it was done in steps beyond 2 wses.

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That I don't know much about, I cant solo multiple SCs on WAR really without wasting my Sekkanoki and mobs don't have enough HP for that to be effective. Never paid attention to SC DMG till I played WAR cause RDM was never good to do it. So in the end, no idea, if so then awesome, but with TP gear now days, no matter how WSs are meant to be designed, it would be a damage loss probably to hold TP for multiple back to back Skillchains since I believe you can only do 3 back to back at a time.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Merit WSes weren't from abyssea, just sayin :p.

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Well yeah, Merit WS are from Merits... Hence why they call it Merit WS. But it was implemented and adjusted during Abyssea Era :p

I just didnt want to write a novel in my OP for the benefit of everyone just glancing at the overall topic.