[Dev] Iridal Staff + "Previous Atma" set

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Originally Posted by sc4500

You forgot that you can do the Elite training 7 op on that staff and increase some of the stats a lot, and it a lot cheaper to augment that staff then the HQ ones. Can just get rid it and go for another one after maybe 10 them should get atleast int +6 or more. also the element effect you get from the augment element you can get stacks to the damage.

Also you can hold more then one them augmented staffs on you at a time.

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Or you could have an unaugmented HQ and do more damage than the NQ + the best augment you could possibly get. There's absolutely no reason to own NQ if you are remotely serious about whatever job you have it for.

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Originally Posted by Helel

I enjoy playing SCH, but I fail to see what else it has to offer besides embrava AND stunning. Why has nobody yet mentioned one of SCH's most important roles (alacrity+stun) . . . ?

Anyway, nobody cares how many nukes you can do or how much damage the nukes do because magic damage is almost completely worthless in the game right now. BLMs are in the same boat; they exist for procs and only procs. You've got wildfire if you absolutely need magic damage.

SCH is an amazing stunner however, so if you're going to argue that SCH is a useful job, you might as well support your argument with the sole reason it should be used outside of embrava.

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Pretty much this. SCH > BLM for single target magic damage, but it's still inferior to the damage output melee jobs can do and aren't nearly as squishy when they pull hate. However, you missed one other aspect that SCH excels at: crowd control. Though, with the obliteration of the original Dynamis system and how trivial Einherjar is now, there's no reason to be good at it anymore.

LOL still do not get this notion that scholar is only good for embrava and nothing else.... I mean who are dumb enough to fill the whole alliance with one trick pony jobs such as whm and blm only. There are over 20 jobs in FFXI, 18 alliance spots, you surely can mix and match the jobs and have close 10-15 jobs at least with a few duplicates easily. You do not need 5 blms in alliance, 2 blms + sch is more than enough. Generally in abyssea people will go for jobs that are small party friendly, and mostly proc jobs if possible since that is the aim. But other endgame events DO EXIST, and those events you will be smart to vary your party set up. At the end of the day, players who understand how the job can be played and their role in the party trump these so called cookie cutter job set up. You do need job xyz to win, but you do must have players who are not idiot and understand how to play well together as a group and strategize.

Hi there!

We do not have any plans for updating the atma selection system beyond what is currently available. The reason is because by utilizing the last used set and the the recent history feature, these should provide enough options to be quickly utilized for multiple jobs and scenarios.

Would you reconsider if I mailed you a cookie? I made it myself :o

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Would you reconsider if I mailed you a cookie? I made it myself :o

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This reminded me of a funny photo/comic strip from a {Long Time} ago. Took me a while to find it on the interwebz lol.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/p.../0-comic14.jpg

I dunno but i find that somehow with the recent history feature atmas i use all the time keep gettin pushed off and ones i havent used in 3 months will somehow be on the list. I cant remember how the history thing works but i think somethin should be done if what i use all the time (apocalpyse) is removed in favor for calamity or whatever i might have used to check something one time.

The newest atma you manually set up will always come on the top list, pushing down the list of all the other atmas on your recently used atma list. Basically if your favorite atmas are being pushed down at the very end - you will have to manually select all 3 to bring them all back to the top of the list of recently used.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

If you honestly think that those spells are what makes that job special, then you need to reevaluate how you play it. They're not even 'Proc' spells and only really good when teamed with Klimaform (Which has a long recast) for weather boosts or activating equipment pieces.

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Originally Posted by Rezeak

They already have 5/8 of them and stormspell are part of what makes SCH it's own job

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Highlighted just cause it seems you didn't read it either i ment part as in 1 part of many
thing that makes SCH it's own job.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

They're not even 'Proc' spells and only really good when teamed with Klimaform (Which has a long recast) for weather boosts or activating equipment pieces

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So there good all the time then :P

As for proc arguement may as well give SCH nukeaja, Alexander, Refresh II cause there not proc spell /sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Hi there!

We do not have any plans for updating the atma selection system beyond what is currently available. The reason is because by utilizing the last used set and the the recent history feature, these should provide enough options to be quickly utilized for multiple jobs and scenarios.

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Sorry. You are wrong.
I only play about 4 jobs and I use about 12 different Atmas, obviously in multiple sets.
The currently system is garbage for this reason.
Honestly, making it not-suck is NOT that difficult. If you could save a few "recent sets", it'd be already much improved.

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Originally Posted by Kari

Sorry. You are wrong.
I only play about 4 jobs and I use about 12 different Atmas, obviously in multiple sets.
The currently system is garbage for this reason.
Honestly, making it not-suck is NOT that difficult. If you could save a few "recent sets", it'd be already much improved.

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I loled at the idea of straight up telling Okipuit your wrong, not that your wrong, because you arnt, but it was still funny.