[Dev] Iridal Staff + "Previous Atma" set

[Zeargi]

OK, I know I'll most likely get flamed, but I just had this notion...

The special effect on the Iridal Staff and it's HQ counter part are effected by the weather (Please correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think it'd be too unreasonable to ask then, if the Storm spells could be lowered to have access to all of them while subbing SCH. I like SCH as a sub, and this would help quite a few jobs when one wasn't present. SMN, WHM, and BLM can all benefit from these, and it doesn't take away from SCH's Stormsurge ability. But this would also make Klimaform more useful at an Earlier bracket if the SCH could also use it.

My next thought:
Is there anyway to maybe expand the "Previous Atma" section to the last 3 combos. I've got 3 or 4 different jobs that I play with at a time, but it sucks when an atma falls off the history and I have to cycle back through anyway. It's also speed up the process to I could switch between like a BLM set-up to a Pet or Even DD in relative ease. It'd kind of work like the history section where it'd push down the last one into the next slot, and then the next; so that way that there would be 3 sets selectable and adding any more manually would then push the last one out of rotation.

Just a thought.

[Twille]

I would like to be able to store (and later edit) multiple Atma sets, would make entering Aby and getting ready much faster.

[Spiritreaver]

OK, I know I'll most likely get flamed, but I just had this notion...

Give it a bit and i know you'll be proven right.

Personally, i say why the hell not? SE is giving the job away piecemeal as is and the playerbase has reduced what's left to yet another '2hr whore' job. Why not just go ahead and dead-check SCH already?

I am all for your atma-list suggestion tho.

[Zeargi]

RDM is in far worse shape than SCH is. The weather effects are minimal at best. It doesn't impact trials. The only thing it would do would lower Prep costs for SMN, Give the Magic Attack boost back to BLM IF they decided to sub SCH, but with RDM or WHM as a better choice, and increase slightly the the Cure Effect for WHM. And even if the don't lower all them. Getting the last basic element Thunderstorm would be fine by me.

[Reiterpallasch]

Give it a bit and i know you'll be proven right.

Sure will! Allow me to begin:

Iridal Staff

Why even mention the NQ staff? Aside from the fact that it's crap (as are all NQ staves), there's absolutely no reason any semi decent BLM shouldn't have already owned a full set of the HQ staves. They're dirt cheap. They're still dirt cheap, even compared to prices from years ago back before magians existed and anyone that was worth anything had them.

Oh well, I guess the NQ version is still better than Maleficus, so some terribad BLM will get some use out of it (while being bad, that is).

[Zeargi]

Sure will! Allow me to begin:

Why even mention the NQ staff? Aside from the fact that it's crap (as are all NQ staves), there's absolutely no reason any semi decent BLM shouldn't have already owned a full set of the HQ staves. They're dirt cheap. They're still dirt cheap, even compared to prices from years ago back before magians existed and anyone that was worth anything had them.

Oh well, I guess the NQ version is still better than Maleficus, so some terribad BLM will get some use out of it (while being bad, that is).

Off topic, but OK thanks! Besides the Iridal staff is a whole-hell-of-a-lot easier to spell than the HQ one.

Also, since when has 2,470,000 gil been cheap @_@ That's not even including the craftering fee if you can't make the staff on your own.

[Theytak]

honestly, given how SE already took one of SCH's two big unique things (helixes) and made them subable, for no real reason, that sch's left with just 3 storm spells unique to itself is a good thing. The last thing we need is whms able to cast aura storms on themselves. Sch's already been reduced to being a one trick pony, it'd be a really low blow to take the last of their storms from them.

[Zeargi]

honestly, given how SE already took one of SCH's two big unique things (helixes) and made them subable, for no real reason, that sch's left with just 3 storm spells unique to itself is a good thing. The last thing we need is whms able to cast aura storms on themselves. Sch's already been reduced to being a one trick pony, it'd be a really low blow to take the last of their storms from them.

I'd don't understand why SE even changed that to begin with. the Helix spells are crap anyway unless you have a native Elemental Skill. They don't last long enough to do anything really noticeable.

[Spiritreaver]

I'd don't understand why SE even changed that to begin with. the Helix spells are crap anyway unless you have a native Elemental Skill. They don't last long enough to do anything really noticeable.

You don't need good initial DMG on landing the spell to proc in VW, that's why.

With the way Arts work on /SCH, anyone with /SCH and an appropriate staff can land a helix for the most part.

[Zeargi]

You don't need good initial DMG on landing the spell to proc in VW, that's why.

With the way Arts work on /SCH, anyone with /SCH and an appropriate staff can land a helix for the most part.

But they changed the level requirements before this whole proc'ing business, If I remember correctly.