No Timed Pop Notorious Monsters In New Expansion

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Originally Posted by Habu

All I'm reading is wha wha I can't claim. Suckless or cleave your KIs

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Nice one. You must've worked for days to come up with that.

Nah it came to me quicker than a casual crying bot

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Originally Posted by Dohati

for the love of god... please, no more proc systems... PLEASE. having to proc everything instead of just needed to be skillful in just getting the mob to die period gets annoying sometimes... i'm ok with abyssea and voidwatch, but i really don't want to have everything worthwhile in the game be like that.

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No, you need the procs or the drop rate will be less then 1%. We don't need more month long spawn timers that you need 32 people to kill, with .05% drops on 80mil gil items.

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Originally Posted by Oscar71

Fun Fact: You can get both K.I.'s from gold chests!

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Yeah, along with a ton of other crap....
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ab...unkerl#Fishing

I know it says fishing, but it's the closest placeholder to their list for gold chests over there. Scan the list real quick. It's only a PARTIAL list, and is already over 40 items. Note that the KI's tracked for popping NMs so far are hovering around the 1% mark. Hence, why I stated this in the post Kojo referenced (added bold text for emphasis):

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One item for the big fish can be earned off a forced pop NM, the other is sheer luck on claiming the frog--otherwise you take your chances on finding them in gold chests

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I loved old HNM, it was frustrating at times but when we did claim it was worth it. No one could give us a "run for our money' so to say when it came to DI/SW bc they couldnt have their alliance all on top of NM 2s after it popped. The only reasons pplcry is because A: Flat out jealous they sucked so bad at claiming, B: much more easy to call ppl cheaters then admit you just failed, C: Hates to lose, Or D: Wants everything handed to them. I miss back in the day when i was proud to strut around with Tia/Vrtra/Khim/Cerb/Lambton/DI(somewhat)/HQ King titles and ppl would check me and say grats or start asking me questions about my LS. Now that feeling is unobtainable in this current XI, Even my relics i busted my rear for to get are a joke to get. I understand the system was hard for ppl w/o ample time to spend on it and that yes it was unfair to the majority but i do have the time to spend on it and there still is a# of ppl who enjoyed the competitive atmosphere/drama, just because you personally didn't approve it why should it be taken away completely? If they do add HNM i'll be happy but i'm not dumb enough to believe they'll add pops like KB/Aspid?Nid where thepop area is so small you can cram 100 bots into it, they would make them along the lines of di/sw, whole zone/multi zone pops. I just want some type of prestige element back in the game.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

No, you need the procs or the drop rate will be less then 1%. We don't need more month long spawn timers that you need 32 people to kill, with .05% drops on 80mil gil items.

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Call me crazy, but I actually like the Proc system in Abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Kojo

Call me crazy, but I actually like the Proc system in Abyssea.

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Dude, me too! They should just add the proc system to everything!

I don't have an opinion either way on the proc system - it works for what it does and adds a slight challenge before the actual kill (not much)

I think the NM pop system is the best. Having to claim timed spawns to pop KI mobs is stupid - getting friends together to go and do XXX NM be it a zone boss, a +2 boss or an emp boss and then having 40 other people sitting around the 15min spawn NM is infuriating and a waste of everyones time.

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Originally Posted by Oscar71

Dude, me too! They should just add the proc system to everything!

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I think I prefer the proc system in Dynamis. I dunno...it's satisfying getting provs with the right spell, and with the right jobs you can proc quickly. But in Dyna pretty much any job can assist in proccing and that to me, is better.

But yeah I agree, adding a form of proccing to the whole game would be a great idea.

It is rather stupid that the real challenge is claiming NMs. Fighting them should be the challenge.