Salvage profit and you

If you pick the right path in SSR, the cottons are 100% drops. 4*12.5/pouch (5-20) = 50 Alexandrite from cotton pouches average. I get about 25 singles per run average, maybe more. It takes me 70-80 minutes and only one person (me).

50+18+25 = 93


500 Currency * 7k each = 3.5mil
50 Forgotten * 20k each = 1mil

4.5 mil / 2 people = 2.25mil per person
2.25mil per person / 2 hours = 1.125 mil per person per hour from your Dynamis


93 Alexandrite * 20k each = 1.86 mil
1.86mil / 1 person / 80 minutes = 1.4mil per person per hour from my Salvage


They're a little closer to equal for me because I do Tav and forgotten items from there are still worth real gil.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

50-100 on boss : 18 coins average.
4 NMs can drop their pouch, not 100% of the time : 10 coins average per pouch, 75% droparate on NM : 30 coins average.

That's 48 coins which you have to complete with gear killing at which point you are better off exiting and going to dynamis or limbus, because clearing every single gear is not only boring but also very random, not to mention lower fllor doors/gear drop less than CC floor ones.

Also the RDM NM itself requires an insane amount of time to pop with only a chance at dropping. So this one must be skipped to optimize your runs.

I calculated once that salvage will be worth doing when dynamis currently will go for 3k each and alex will stay at 20k.

Me and mdk, together with mules (mnk,thf,whm,brd) were doing 550 coins average in qufim plus 50 forgotten items. Sure prices have dropped a lot but it's still miles better than salvage.

And if you ever want alex for a mythic, the most clever way to do it is to leach cruor off plenty of mules and then sell chocobo blinker I hear, then buy alex..

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then you end up with lot of gils and no mythic because nobody sell alexs. OP started this thread because he want other people to farm/sell alex so he can buy them. the <40 linen per group clearing NIUR bring into market are not enough if nobody farm salvage.

and unless you leveled several mules you can only do one dyna per day, but can do dyna=>salvage

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Originally Posted by hiko

then you end up with lot of gils and no mythic because nobody sell alexs. OP started this thread because he want other people to farm/sell alex so he can buy them. the <40 linen per group clearing NIUR bring into market are not enough if nobody farm salvage.

and unless you leveled several mules you can only do one dyna per day, but can do dyna=>salvage

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Very much this, ATM I am sitting on near 100m and can't buy much for alexandrites at all because no one sells them to the point I bring in Gil faster than I can spend it.

@Pchan your math is also wrong the cotton pouches in SSR are 100% and they are 5-20 not 0-20 so it's 12.5 average or 50 per run (would think if you ran salvage as much as you say you would know this).

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Why wonder, when you can just as well keep it to yourself and profit nicely while keeping the Alex market low? Or are you a mythic builder and wanna encourage people to spam it so Alex prices drop? Not many people do it because not many people know it's profitable, it's as simple as that. And incidentally, it's profitable precisely because not many people know. By spreading awareness of it, it will cease to be.

Also 90 Alex/run without purse is exaggerated, average is at about 75. Can't tell me you get more than that, because I kill every mob that can drop Alex with TH6 or higher, so it's statistically impossible. Although my drop rate on the boss is also extremely low, maybe I just suck at Salvage somehow.

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75 is about the lowest I have ever gotten. I usually get 85-90.

you've been lucky. I had runs with teh four 100% pouches give 5 coins or something... This actually happens a lot.

It balances out. Don't forget that despite the doom and gloom regarding linens, they do drop once in awhile. I think the lowest I've gotten in SSR is roughly 65.

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Originally Posted by hiko

then you end up with lot of gils and no mythic because nobody sell alexs. OP started this thread because he want other people to farm/sell alex so he can buy them. the <40 linen per group clearing NIUR bring into market are not enough if nobody farm salvage.

and unless you leveled several mules you can only do one dyna per day, but can do dyna=>salvage

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I thought it was clear that you are never going to get enough alex unless you use two server transfer of 10+ mules full of gil. It's basically insane to farm 30000 alex solo ( if you get 100 alex per run that's 300 runs).

Also while we are it, 30k alex is only 600k gil. That's like 40-50 marrows only, so you might want to try that instead.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

500 Currency * 7k each = 3.5mil
50 Forgotten * 20k each = 1mil

4.5 mil / 2 people = 2.25mil per person
2.25mil per person / 2 hours = 1.125 mil per person per hour from your Dynamis


93 Alexandrite * 20k each = 1.86 mil
1.86mil / 1 person / 80 minutes = 1.4mil per person per hour from my Salvage

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I've beeen saying for 1 year that soloing dynamis is for losers. 2box+ or bust. Also you still need 2 other chars to enter salvage/assaults at will, so moot point. If you are really solo, salvage is impossible to farm anyway. If you have 3 chars then you can't enter more than one salvage a day too.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

75 is about the lowest I have ever gotten. I usually get 85-90.

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Lucky you. Math says lowest is 20. Statistics say lowest is ~60. 50 from pouches is average. That means you're getting up to 50 before pouches? I already said I kill everything that drops Alex (except possibly one or two Ramparts on the third floor) and highest I've ever gotten was 42 Alex (just earlier today, actually, 184 total with purse). If you get that many you've hacked the JP button somehow.

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Originally Posted by Monchat

you've been lucky. I had runs with teh four 100% pouches give 5 coins or something... This actually happens a lot.

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It's an even distribution, 5-20, there's no rocket science there.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

I thought it was clear that you are never going to get enough alex unless you use two server transfer of 10+ mules full of gil. It's basically insane to farm 30000 alex solo ( if you get 100 alex per run that's 300 runs).

Also while we are it, 30k alex is only 600k gil. That's like 40-50 marrows only, so you might want to try that instead.

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if I were to server transfer a mule to EVERY server right now I would be able to buy a massive 3-4k which would pretty much be a massive waste of 200-300 USD. I dont think you understand gil cant buy what doesnt exist.