Ideas to improve Neo Nyzul

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Originally Posted by Monchat

btw JP seem to do this event a lot lol. 50 people in nyzul during the JP prime so I wouldn't say it's dead (yet).

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They probably figured out the tricks while we were complaining.

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Originally Posted by Monchat

btw JP seem to do this event a lot lol. 50 people in nyzul during the JP prime so I wouldn't say it's dead (yet).

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On phoexin 7pm Tokyo 2 bst in nyzul still lol.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

They probably figured out the tricks while we were complaining.

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Tricks such as the best method for reaching Floor 6?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

They're not excluded. They're just reaping less powerful rewards. Floor 100 doesn't need to be the goal for everybody. Likewise, though, it should be the goal for somebody which is the problem the event faces as is. It's poorly... balanced.

I have no real fundamental issues with content requiring "the best" to complete, though. If I'm not good enough to do something, I get better until I am. Where's the challenge otherwise?

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I wouldn't have any problem with your statement here if not for the fact that WITHOUT the use for 3rd party tools, those ppl that reported they were able to reach floor 100 would not have made it. So by making the game a lot easier by using tools, what 'Challenge' is there really? It also put a big question mark next to your claim of being 'BEST'. Is the group still the 'best' if they are only able to archive something through the use of tools? Show me someone that reached 100 without the use of any 3rd party tools and I'll STFU.

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

Thats all well and good but at this point in the games life you can't push content that only offers 1 to 2% gain for a 100% more effort. It would be one thing if the 60, 80, and 100 gear far better then what we already have but its simply not.

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Far better than who already has?

The people with gear that outclasses Nyzul +2/+3 are the ones who are probably capable of hitting Floor 100 in the first place.

The people who really should be aiming for floor 20-60 are the ones whose gear would almost certainly still see improvements from pieces on those floors.

I think, in general, people are just completely skimming over my other post in this thread where I do address the luck issue and just chose to focus on one response. I don't really have anything to say to those replies, because they're pretty much talking to air.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

They're not excluded. They're just reaping less powerful rewards. Floor 100 doesn't need to be the goal for everybody. Likewise, though, it should be the goal for somebody which is the problem the event faces as is. It's poorly... balanced.

I have no real fundamental issues with content requiring "the best" to complete, though. If I'm not good enough to do something, I get better until I am. Where's the challenge otherwise?

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So basically: Just don't do the event until you have built your R/E/M and gotten all the VW/Abyssea stuff for your job.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

So basically: Just don't do the event until you have built your R/E/M and gotten all the VW/Abyssea stuff for your job.

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Or even basicallyer, don't try to run before you can crawl.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

Or even basicallyer, don't try to run before you can crawl.

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Thing is +2 is far better then floor 60 sidegrade crap. Nothing offers that much of a improvement and floor 100 gear is lol side grade to with one or two that might be 1 to 2% better for one or two jobs but not worth the effort. Far more people are walking around with full +2s for the jobs they care about then you want to think and even if they are not +2 gear is far easier to get then floor 60. Its lol salvage all over to little for to much.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

So basically: Just don't do the event until you have built your R/E/M and gotten all the VW/Abyssea stuff for your job.

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You can do the event without shooting for 100. 80 isn't out of reach even without relics, and +3 gear isn't bad at all if you're missing any VW/Abyssea gear. Even then, making a 90E/95R isn't really that bad these days.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You can do the event without shooting for 100. 80 isn't out of reach even without relics, and +3 gear isn't bad at all if you're missing any VW/Abyssea gear. Even then, making a 90E/95R isn't really that bad these days.

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All in all still pretty bad requirements just for entrance to floor 100. I don't know, we'll just have to see how this shakes out, but in my opinion, it is way to hard for 90% of people to even get to 100, and way too random / luck based for most of us that can get to 100. I personally only get to play like 3 hours a day (which is a lot of time on a video game if you think about it) and I'm not gonna spend it pulling a slot machine lever. I'll take slow steady progress over dumb luck any day.