Dark Magic Nukes ~ Because we have no Firepower!

A few tiers of MAB isn't going to make T3 nukes shine on DRK. It certainly wouldn't hurt the job any to add it though. If you want to nuke on DRK, that's fine, but I can't think of any situation where you wouldn't be better off just swinging with twilight scythe if normal damage isn't effective.

My first answer would be ... because I have a Redemption. My second and more important answer is that the MAB is NOT for the sake of the elemental magic .. it's for the dark based nukes everybody keeps crying for. I'm asking to fix what sucks about nuking on dark knight before asking for more useless mp sinks.

And I know a lot of situations where casting as gotten the job done before Twilight Scythe was dropped on DRK as a giant half-hearted apology. There are also current situations where it comes in handy as well. If I couldn't do that I'd be doing half my job.

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Originally Posted by Geabrielle

I've heard that particular argument as well and hate to be the bearer of crappy news but they will never remove the elemental magic from Dark Knight. Personally, being able to kick ass and cast elemental spells was what drew me to the job all those years ago so I may be biased in my affection. :/ So why can't we try to work with what we're stuck with? We have the firepower potential we just need the lovely MAB trait and I definitely want Tier 2 since ele spells are a bout half the spell group, AND we have higher skill than a RDM. Even if they give us dark celerity there's still a huge chunk of possibility sitting there. If we're going to ask for adjustment we may as well start with what's there.

And pray they don't give us dark based nukes without the MAB or you all just opened yourself up for more frustration.

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SE will never do anything that may take some time, hence reworking current content or rehashes instead of making new, unique content.

MAB is nice, but Dark nukes could work without it. SE makes the base damage, if they made it decently high, they wouldn't need to give MAB.

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Originally Posted by Kysaiana

DRK really doesn't need MAB traits since casting an elemental nuke only hurts your TP and damage output. Unless they add a dark magic based line of nukes and the fabled dark magic version of elemental celerity, at which point I could see MAB traits being useful. As far as SCH goes, it would be nice if you could get over MAB II but I'm sure SE would say something about BALANCE.

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It's nothing to do with Balance. It's the job itself. SCH wont get any traits that don't work on all spells like Conserve MP. The job itself dictates it's not a conventional mage. The most I could see SE giving is equipment that has something like: Dark Arts: Enhances "Magic Attack Bonus" effect.

Tranquil Heart seems an exception to the job, and is more likely a case of added just because RDM and WHM received it. (proved further by gaining a lesser tier than both RDM and WHM) I'm not against SCH getting it, just SE most likely wont grant it outside of Equipment to them. Especially with the power behind their 30 second JA's.

If we got a JA that doubled 1 damage spell for drk with a 1min recast then elemental nukes would seem worthwhile (we got quite a bit of mab anyway) that or a stance where our magic casts are stronger but cost us recast i'd take it. That'll allow me to pick up scythe, level it, and spend merits on entrophy or something. All i want is firepower and there's nothing wrong with giving us T4 spells tbh nin can do damage and turn around and use a nuke setup just like blu.

We do damage after all, no?

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Originally Posted by Fyreus

If we got a JA that doubled 1 damage spell for drk with a 1min recast then elemental nukes would seem worthwhile (we got quite a bit of mab anyway)

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the only MaB we have atm is gear based

Really you shouldn't worry about MAB too much it#s not even that big of an increase anyway it's the abilty to use HQ/Magin staffs for huge boosts in DMG and macc

Yes all our MAB is on gear and we get some really good nuking gear (no sarcasm!), that's why i'd like to see a JA like the old FF games like Double or Triple. Man if i could find a ps2 to hdmi adapter i'd have some fun again.

why is this thread still going on?

Why shouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by Dart

why is this thread still going on?

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cause people are still posting in it and that's how a forum works.

ps glad to help you understand the basics of forums.