Lack of content and another level increase looming

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With Abyssea almost every piece of content FFXI had was made obsolete

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This strikes me as a rather untimely thing to say, given that they've made a push to adjust old content alongside adding new content. One of the remarkable things that has changed is that Campaign has experienced a revival in participation. They didn't make it possible to skillup. They didn't add new Allied Notes/Union loot. They didn't even make it so fort bashing no longer sucks. All they did was increase the EXP gain. The participation was enough such that Splitting Heirs and Plucking Wings actually opened up in the last few weeks. There was a big push to do those because, contrary to what the doomsayers like to spout, a lot of old gear isn't obsolete yet.

I swear, if some people had their way, we'd all still be running around in Scorpion Harnesses and Haubergeons.

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I swear, if some people had their way, we'd all still be running around in Scorpion Harnesses and Haubergeons.

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I can't think of any particular reason to become so attached to certain items other than appearance. If level caps go up and new content is added, you should be expecting a lot of new items to be replacing old ones.

Would you rather be wearing a scorp harness with augments to bring it up to a lv90 item's stats? or would you rather be wearing a new item purpose built for lv90+? I happily cast aside my salvage gear for empyrean armor even though I spent a lot of time on it. I'd rather be wearing the new thing than spend time upgrading the old stuff to compete with it.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Abyssea is "free" to enter yet no such restrictions exist. Even the most useless mobs had a piece of gear one of the twenty classes could put to use.

We're supposed to be moving away from all-or-nothing yet Voidwatch ep.1 seems to be going right back into the quicksand that plagued Salvage where either you got a 35 or a waste of time.

Replace 35 with radiant mails and you have Voidwatch pools.



The dagger is going for 40k on my server. Pretty crap for a reward.



If cruor are the "points" for Voidwatch, what's the point of doing Voidwatch? You could simply sit in Abyssea and burn until you reach the amount you need.

The problem you run into is that if Voidwatch wants to stand on its own, it needs to grab individuals and at least be moderately rewarding. It doesn't have to club players over the head with loot but it needs to be something worth doing for the long haul which it isn't right now.

Going up to 95 perhaps the playing field will change.

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Its really is just like salvage with a couple of jobs getting some great and everyone else sidegrade crap. Anything that can be put on AH is not a suitable reward to get people to do the content. Gil has lost most of its value it had at 75 so even getting 1 mil(whats rancor collar was going for) for something you might not even see for run after run is not rewarding.

The only way to get everyone doing the event is to make the emp.weaopn 95 upgrade come from the highest tiers.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I can't think of any particular reason to become so attached to certain items other than appearance. If level caps go up and new content is added, you should be expecting a lot of new items to be replacing old ones.

Would you rather be wearing a scorp harness with augments to bring it up to a lv90 item's stats? or would you rather be wearing a new item purpose built for lv90+? I happily cast aside my salvage gear for empyrean armor even though I spent a lot of time on it. I'd rather be wearing the new thing than spend time upgrading the old stuff to compete with it.

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People who get the best gear available at any given time thinks it magically means they'll have the best gear forever.

Like all the turds who flipped out and demanded a boost to E.Body and lolRidill.

What ? Having the best gear at any given time has always been the goal in FFXI ; otherwise you can just quit once you reach level 90 seriously. Do you do MMM, do you do chocobo raising do you do pankration ? Nope ? k.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

What ? Having the best gear at any given time has always been the goal in FFXI ; otherwise you can just quit once you reach level 90 seriously. Do you do MMM, do you do chocobo raising do you do pankration ? Nope ? k.

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What I mean is, a lot of people think that once they have the best gear, they assume it'll stay the best forever.

Plenty of Usukane MNKs, for instance, flipped out at the introduction of Tantra +2.

there isn't a lack of content. This is what happens with speed lvling faster you hit cap less you can do also aby is 30+ and not everyone is speed leveling. So really its the community more then the game. Seems we got the Wow community who forcing speed lvl or bust. There is no reason to rush mmo.

I agree with the OP about the lack of content. The only time we've gotten any new content this year was in May where they tweaked Dynamis, introduced Grounds of Valor and Voidwatch. Being an old time player, Dynamis is still Dynamis and while the change helped me getting the wins over again, I rather want something new to play with. Grounds of Valor is Fields of Valor just in dungeons and an alternative way of leveling up. I already got 6 jobs at level 90 and I feel I actually want to use those jobs rather than leveling up more of them.

Which brings me to Voidwatch, I can't really say much about Voidwatch because of I've only done it once. That's sort of the problem I have with Voidwatch, the low interest in it and I'm very interested in getting into it. Everything about the game is centered around Abyssea these days and I sort of understand why. Abyssea is low man friendly with ridiculous buffs that no man or woman had seen before, it was a power that I think is really awesome the feeling of becoming gods and wreak havoc in the zones. So for me Voidwatch feels like a step backwards when you remove all of those buffs and the game that was before Abyssea starts to show itself again. Not to mention Voidwatch reuses old zones that I've visited to death already, plus models that I've seen way too many times.

I know some people that have done everything they can in the game right now and is starting on a 3rd Empyrean weapon because of the current state of the game. I'm aware of there's a lot of things to do in the game, the game itself has a depth that no other game can surpass but a lot of the content relies on other people that are also interested in it.

It doesn't feel like they're releasing content slower than they were when it was 75 cap, but the problem is that there is so little 90 content to work with right now, and we don't have the content to fall back on like we did at 75 that has been piling up for years. Abyssea, voidwatch... thats all that is not 75 content right now, and its been over a year since 80 now.

Abyssea is kind of boring at this point to me, and I haven't even made an empy weapon yet.

Voidwatch I did a couple fights early on, and I just don't like the system. It's pretty crappy for filler content, and its too obvious with the drop rates even when you do things perfectly + the random loot you might not need system that it is content designed to waste your time hard and to keep you coming back every day. Also its a bit of a pain having to have more than a lowman group for it since abyssea has put everyone into a 6 or less people mindset.

At this point I'd be even happy with doing magians on old gear to bring them up to higher levels, I miss some of the old content, but mostly I miss the option of doing other content that still gives good gear. And no..... Synergy does not count for bringing up old gear, Auguments are too freaking random, and requiring synergy level'd to get decent auguments is pretty BS.

eh, I have no trouble filling my game time.