Greatguardian you're crazy, we should petition the removal of all colibri and other ToAU camps so people can level like we did by using moon, sky, and krt. While we're at it let's get SE to raise the amount of EXP needed to level again so it's more fair to the people like us that leveled like that originally.
I understand that this still won' be fair though, gear now is vastly superior to what we had (even low level gear) and we have food that gives acc now.
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03-20-2011, 07:34 AMKazen
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03-20-2011, 07:35 AMZeitzoneYeah, you really are simple minded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
You have not understood what the Thread creator wanted. And just talking BS to keep your way.
Im done with this. Enjoy your poor ways of playing, anyways it will only last 1 more year till you all leave becouse you got nothing left to do in this game. -
03-20-2011, 07:35 AMTsukino_KajiSame. Sitting there with a staff so I could get the 3/tic from sundering slash. Laughing at the people who got blown up. Good times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Komori
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03-20-2011, 07:36 AMFashnek
In short, i have different gear that i play in {most jobs have have 2-4 sets, macros, etc}, but i also like to run around when not in party in a totally different set. No if you are talking about that this certain player is the seeker/shouter, then i might, nah, still disagree with you.
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03-20-2011, 07:36 AMGreatguardianI approve of this idea ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
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03-20-2011, 07:37 AMhikoyou are the one acting "my opinion count, other's doesn't! raising aby min level prevent people who like aby xp to do it, not raising cap does NOT prevent people who dont like to xp outsideQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
call me lazy gimp or whatever you want but i know i wont lvl new job outside of aby
if there was more than 10% of players that think like you (leeching aby is bad, old xp is good) you wouldnt have any issue building old style pt. -
03-20-2011, 07:37 AMZeitzoneI already lost it when they added Abyssea. So dont say i do not lose something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrbeansman
It already got lost. And we need to get it back to normal. -
03-20-2011, 07:38 AMNachtWe understand exactly what the thread creator wanted and we disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 07:39 AMPharaunI also agree with this, I miss leveling on raptors in kuftal tunnel in the mid 50's and having someone accidentally pull Yowie, good times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
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03-20-2011, 07:39 AMMrbeansmanMost people who play this game are casual players who can live off abyssea for years to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 07:40 AMRamsosThe original thread creator was a liar who claimed that they were an older player, when in fact there are a noob who only started playing after WoG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 07:41 AMTsukino_KajiPeople actualy fought those for XP? >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaun
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03-20-2011, 07:41 AMZeitzoneAdding Abyssea prevented ppl from forming partys, You sure say they still can from it, but thats a lie, its liek you had a Cookie on the table and were satisified for each day there was a cookie, then they add a cake, and all the greedy ones go for the cake instead of being satisfied with the cookie they been satisfied with for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by hiko
The number of Cookie eaters gets lower becouse the cake is more delicate, and now there is noone making cookies for us anymore, only the cake we dont want. -
03-20-2011, 07:42 AMPharaunHell yeah, I dinged into my Rdm hat on those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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03-20-2011, 07:42 AMKazenI think you meant to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
You really are simple minded. You have not understood what the thread creator want, yet you continue to talk bullshit to encourage people to agree with your opinion.
I'm done with this thread; enjoy your poor ways of playing this game because I'm unable to make an appropriate counter argument. This will only last one more year a best until you have nothing left to accomplish.
Thank you Zeitzone! Finally a post I can reply to!
You refer to me as "simple mind" but again that's an opinion. Perhaps instead of being "simple minded" I'm just more insightful on the current situation at hand. It is possible in one you I could run out of stuff to do but that isn't a realistic scenario that you have created. You are correct is saying I currently have about a years with of content to keep me busy, however, that's what game updates are for so that completely invalidates anything you have said.
I've been playing since 2003, I'm sure I can find plenty of stuff to keep me busy until the next update which provides me with new endgame content. I do thank you for your concern of how my simple mindedness may lead to my undoing but it's a concern you need not worry about. -
03-20-2011, 07:42 AMNacht
I like cake.
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03-20-2011, 07:43 AMTsukino_KajiYou were RDM and the PT wasn't fighting crabs? >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaun
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03-20-2011, 07:45 AMKazenYes they did, and in the 70s people leveled off of those terrible tigers and cocktrices in Kuftal Tunnel behind that rock that periodically goes up and down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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03-20-2011, 07:45 AMPharaunNah, all the crab camps were taken. That's another thing that people forget about "ye olde exp", There were many times that it was impossible or next to impossible to find a decent camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
Edit: Thinking about this even more, the scarcity of good exp camps back in the day cock-blocked more people from exping the old way than Abyssea ever has. -
03-20-2011, 07:46 AMRamsosPelican was always a fun mob for exp pts lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
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03-20-2011, 07:46 AMMrbeansmanI'm Pretty sure there has been more then 5 of you idiots complaining about this on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 07:46 AMKazen
Oh I forgot, if the tiger camp I mentioned was taken people leveled in Dragon's Aery off spiders!
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03-20-2011, 07:46 AMTsukino_KajiREALY?! @.@Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
Why didn't you just to to the vally of sarrows at 70? -
03-20-2011, 07:46 AMGreatguardianMaybe there should be a rule requiring all players in favor of Old EXP to have a Moongate Pass before posting ^___^.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaun
(inb4 "What's a Moongate Pass?") -
03-20-2011, 07:48 AMRamsos
I miss the coerls in onzozo.
(party leader) you guys think we can take Ose? -
03-20-2011, 07:48 AMPharaunMan, I remember leveling on the Darters in the pit when Fafnir popped. We kept on chugging until the group fighting him flailed it and killed us all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
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03-20-2011, 07:48 AMZeitzoneWell then acept that some ppl agree to him too, this is a discussion place, not a disagree Thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nacht
Different opinions will never work together and you cant make them belive your way. So best is if a thread is against your opinion you make 1 post in there for your statement against it and then leave, becouse whatever you say it will not change a thing. And this Thread is for raising the cap, there is a thread for decarasse the cap, thats the place where yo get more attention. Im not forbidding that anyone says its opinion, but you guys tring, in a Thread that says "lets raise the Cap", pressing ppl to your opinion. -
03-20-2011, 07:49 AMTsukino_KajiStill never got around to that, seing it's pointless behind that door. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Greatguardian
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03-20-2011, 07:49 AMKazenBecause none of the camps were ever open. This is something most of you won't remember because you started when ToAU exp was around. Valley of Sorrows was another camp in the 70s but Manticores had a lot of exp and were fairly annoying to exp off of. The manticore's Deadly Hold could one shot a 70ish melee so it sucked pretty bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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03-20-2011, 07:50 AMTsukino_KajiDissagreeing is discussion, if everyone agreed, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 07:50 AMZeitzoneAnd you had fun!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaun
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03-20-2011, 07:50 AMKomori
Dude, whether people who like to leech in abyssea outnumber those that don't doesn't matter. Shout in Port Jeuno! You can make a party and get 5 people.
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03-20-2011, 07:51 AMPharaunIt wasn't fun because we had to homepoint and ended up losing most of the exp we had gained for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
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03-20-2011, 07:53 AMZeitzonei know that, but if points are set you cant move them, so where does a discussion brings you? Nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
Its just a endless talking for nothing from both sides.
At the end it is Flaming and has nothing more to do with a discussion. Precisely you cant even discusse about this becouse noone of us can resolve the problem, discussing is necessary to be directed to the person who can change the terms of the subject. -
03-20-2011, 07:53 AMTsukino_KajiI played from the start and you don't right manticores to level ever. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
Starting zone.(Windy had the best XP.)
Dunes.
Qufim.
Jungle.
Jungle.
Garlage.
QC.
Desert.
Kuftal.
Garlage.
Cape Terrigon.
Valley.
Done.
Post TAU.
55+ TAU everything.
Post Abyssea.
30+ Abyssea everything. -
03-20-2011, 07:53 AMNachtWe're discussing our disagreement in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone
In the other thread, we discussed our agreement, while some other people discussed their disagreement. Over time and much discussion, those other people stopped posting about their disagreement, and the remaining people supported each other.
Now something similar is happening in this thread. Some people are agreeing with the thread and other people are disagreeing, and we're discussing our differences. -
03-20-2011, 07:53 AMRamsos^this. Nothing like taking 40 mins to get to a camp (because people are stupid and get lost, or get aggro, etc.) and dieing right after getting there because either your tank sucked or your healer sucked or some jp guy had to go to sleep and dropped pt with no warning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaun
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03-20-2011, 07:54 AMGreatguardianI had hoped to have blocked the memory of that camp from my mind for the rest of my FFXI-life. Thanks, Kazen :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazen
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03-20-2011, 07:54 AMKazen
I think a lot of you don't understand how bad exp really was back then. With the upcoming server merge and servers once again hitting 5k people this would become a reality again if what you propose is changed. This game simply does not offer enough exp camps to sustain what you want to happen again.
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03-20-2011, 07:55 AMMrbeansmanSo? Maybe we have more fun doing endgame. And because it obviously needs to be said again Leveling jobs does not = FFXI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeitzone