To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

And where from do you suppose I pull this duo or trio from? (Waits for it)...

And once I get the answer to that, where do I pull the remaining 3-4 to have a proper six-man party? (Waits for it again...)

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That's your problem. If enough people think like you then you'll band together and form the kind of party you want. If not? You either play the way others want to, play alone, or don't play at all.

There's a lot of times I log in and there's no one who wants to do what I want to. I either do something else or log off. Nobody is obligated do do what I want how I want it. Same deal for you.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

That's your problem. If enough people think like you then you'll band together and form the kind of party you want. If not? You either play the way others want to, play alone, or don't play at all.

There's a lot of times I log in and there's no one who wants to do what I want to. I either do something else or log off. Nobody is obligated do do what I want how I want it. Same deal for you.

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What if this is the case for you 98% of the time? Is that still an option you would call viable?

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

What if this is the case for you 98% of the time? Is that still an option you would call viable?

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If you can't find five people who think like you in a game with thousands of subscriptions, then you should come to terms with the fact that you're the oddball.

And by the way, perhaps you all didn't catch the neat little memes that say "Oh look. It's this thread again." Perhaps that's because the options you say we have actually do not exist.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

And where from do you suppose I pull this duo or trio from? (Waits for it)...

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Shout in Jeuno, ask in your shell, consult your friends list (although I suspect yours is a very short one).

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

And once I get the answer to that, where do I pull the remaining 3-4 to have a proper six-man party? (Waits for it again...)

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There's no legitimate need for 6 man party to level any more and plenty of good reasons to keep it low man. But read up my earlier answer.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

And by the way, perhaps you all didn't catch the neat little memes that say "Oh look. It's this thread again." Perhaps that's because the options you say we have actually do not exist.

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I think the reason for those is not for the reason you think it is.

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Originally Posted by Eyeballed

So what you're saying is you want this game to be more "Adventure" than "RPG". God of War, Prince of Persia, hell even Zelda come to mind when all you're looking for are big fights and nice drops. That's not what this game is meant to be about, or any RPG for that matter.

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I'm not saying I want it to fit a label at all. The "this isn't a true RPG" absurdity is a high school clique "cook kids" label. A few years later most people realize the names don't mean anything.

You keep trying to take your personal preference for a passtime and objectify it, which is where the absurdity comes in. You don't get to personally define what an objective universal definition of RPG is, or even the idea that FFXI has to necessarily meet this definition if it even existed. I also assume if there was some legal obligation of what RPGs are meant to be, it would change over time. If not, I'd expect you to be buying consumables one at a time like I bought potions in FF1 in 1988. Man, what an accomplishment that was.

Again I'm going back to my high school kids that never left their hometown. There is a tremendous tendency to take the only thing you know and make it the "right way". For most people that fades as soon as college away from home slaps them in the face. For some it's a simple trip to another country, and others a career world with people of all age groups. But we can't even get you to try VW or other end game content, so I don't think there's hope yet.

Fun fact for Eyeballed.

You can get the feeling of danger attached to old school parties by trioing T-VT enemies, and if you do it right, you'll even get about twice the exp an hour compared to actual old school parties.

How's that for a middle path?

Before you say it's impossible or something, I did this about a year ago with two friends and it worked just as expected, we got about 30k/hour in the jungles. Naturally, you'd need a party with two strong DDs and one job that can both heal and buff. If this healer/buffer can also deal a tiny bit of damage, that's even better. On T-targets, even jobs with relatively low offensive stats can deal enough damage for it to matter. A good setup could be for example war/mnk, sam/war, cor/whm or maybe brd/whm. See, you'll even emulate the need for jobs that are in low supply!

You basically just go to the same camps as you'd go to with a full party, but just go there 5 levels later.

We're not doing it anymore though, because we don't really feel like spending so much time on leveling when we could spend that time better by farming dynamis, abyssea, or whatever else there is to do for duos and trios to do.

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Originally Posted by Ritsuka

I hope you bring the old Final Fantasy XI game back. Every sense abyssea the games turned into s$$t. Alot of older players think so as well and thats why they stoped playing the game.
I herd a rumor that they planed on making this game out to be like World of Warcraft. IF you turn this game into another WoW clone thats it for me.

I'm not really sure what to do about the leveling system either. Sense all the Newb's only want to do 18 man partys doing grounds of valor so when they do get high enough to do other stuff they have no idea what they are doing. There still quite of few of us who love to do the old 6 man party sets up but its more defacult now then it use to be even tho I'm still able to do it with enough shouting in town to find people to join. I've notice they put a cap on lower level pages in abyssea zone for lower level's, Maybe put a 1 game day limit on page's in grounds of valor would stop those 18 man party's and maybe not.

And on a side note would be nice to get male mithria adding to this game and battle choco's :D just my 2 cents hope you read it.

Regards
Loyal FF player sense 04

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You obviously missed the point in the game before level sync existed wherein it was astronimically impossible to find anyone to be able to party with and the point several months after level sync where it wasn't nearly as astronomical, but still nearly impossible to find anyone to party with.

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Originally Posted by Merton9999

I'm not saying I want it to fit a label at all. The "this isn't a true RPG" absurdity is a high school clique "cook kids" label. A few years later most people realize the names don't mean anything.

You keep trying to take your personal preference for a passtime and objectify it, which is where the absurdity comes in. You don't get to personally define what an objective universal definition of RPG is, or even the idea that FFXI has to necessarily meet this definition if it even existed. I also assume if there was some legal obligation of what RPGs are meant to be, it would change over time. If not, I'd expect you to be buying consumables one at a time like I bought potions in FF1 in 1988. Man, what an accomplishment that was.

Again I'm going back to my high school kids that never left their hometown. There is a tremendous tendency to take the only thing you know and make it the "right way". For most people that fades as soon as college away from home slaps them in the face. For some it's a simple trip to another country, and others a career world with people of all age groups. But we can't even get you to try VW or other end game content, so I don't think there's hope yet.

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How about instead of it being "This isn't a true RPG", we go straight for the gut and say "This isn't the game I used to play." It has very, very little to do with objectification as it does the style of gameplay this game used to deliver - which I preferred, shockingly enough. Again I say, if it was still here as you all claim it to be, then why are people still complaining? Are we all delusional?

On a side note, I'm originally from Texas and now live in the UK.