Current Empy 95 Price

Yeah but his count of time spent on alex was incorrect if he was basing it solely on farming and not buying alex. Even then he should have calculated the time to farm the 450 mil to 600mil to buy from bazaars. Also his time spent didnt count the time for all assaults being done twice, climbing nyzul to floor 100 and farming tokens, ichor, and znms. His representation of the time taken for a mythic is not realistic at all, and I think he purposely made it look less to hyperbolize the requirements for the empyrean 95s.

He dbox'd a majority of it not bought and you can check his posts on two other forums as for time spent farming. He specifically stated in his post how long the Alexandrite stage would take based on his estimations, why would he include the other stages when he's referring to just one stage?

And wasn't that post made before COP dynamis was revamped?

He's talking about the difficulty as a whole for dyna and as a whole for empyreans. I'd assume he would do the same for mythics. Also he posted in my mythic thread and stated he's bought alot of his alexandrite for low prices and has gotten lucky. I know for a fact you cant farm salvage dual boxing for two to three months (First because it takes 3 people it'd be trip boxing) and make 28000 alexandrite unless you're duping/exploiting/cheating.

Heavy Metal Plates were out the same update as CoP Dyna and its only been nerfed since.

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Originally Posted by Staren

I know for a fact you cant farm salvage dual boxing for two to three months (First because it takes 3 people it'd be trip boxing) and make 28000 alexandrite unless you're duping/exploiting/cheating.

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Just pointing out Salvage can be soloed the same way assaults can be soloed via forced D/C during confirmation time so points aren't wasted so duo is possible. This trick isn't anything "new" and has been in the game for a few years now.

Would still require a third person, even given that full clearing zones and having th and a healer and doing bosses would not yield you 28000 alexandrite in 2-3 months. (Without using exploits, dupes, etc)

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Originally Posted by Staren

Dynamis with 2-3 people is an average of 300 coins a run on the low end.

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Just no. With an everage of 2-2.3 (which is only done with a /THF or a THF, so gimp damage output or gimp proc availablility) you need to kill 130 mobs. Remove 20 minutes to farm extensions in dreamlands, that's 1 mob every 45 sec including pulling time, the high likelyhood of having CC plus killing time which is far from being negligeable. So yeah bullshit. Your duo does 150 coins bro.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Just no. With an everage of 2-2.3 (which is only done with a /THF or a THF) you need to kill 130 mobs. Remove 20 minutes to farm extensions in dreamlands, that's 1 mob every 45 sec including pulling time, the high likelyhood of having CC plus killing time which is far from being negligeable. So yeah bullshit. Your duo does 150 coins bro.

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I dont know what you're talking about, I mean I know you're a joke on BG so I'll guess you're trolling me. We make 250 coins on a bad night 300 coins on an average night 300-600 on a good night (given white procs or fortunate drops). We do three man it though so maybe there is your difference. But the drop rates are not as bad as your proposing. You're probably just doing it wrong. BS is the people who claim 500-600 a run regularly.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Just no. With an everage of 2-2.3 (which is only done with a /THF or a THF, so gimp damage output or gimp proc availablility) you need to kill 130 mobs. Remove 20 minutes to farm extensions in dreamlands, that's 1 mob every 45 sec including pulling time, the high likelyhood of having CC plus killing time which is far from being negligeable. So yeah bullshit. Your duo does 150 coins bro.

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We do 250-300 duo nightly. Most is 313 even our first trial run netted more then 150.

NIN/DNC THF/DNC

You two come back to me when you are at your 3rd farmed relic like us. You did a few runs and present it as a given that a duo pulls 300 coins. Duo is considerably limited by proc and pulling speed as explained above. For us, 80% of the time the mob is proced in the first 10 seconds of it being being at camp, the monk in constantly killing (with a non gimp subjob and actually using his TP for DD) and the thief is constantly pulling for 2 hours minus the amount of time required to farm 5 extensions, and we only do 400 coins per run with 6. And you are explaining us that your duos pulls about as much coins which means, since duos is extremely slow for fulling, you are actually procing faster than 10 seconds. This is the internet and you can't backup your claims. Please show us a parse of your duos with an average amount of coins per mob dropped, and the amount of mobs killed, then we will discuss seriously.

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Originally Posted by Return1

I'm just saying, the plates are only valued so highly because the less intelligent are actually buying them atm. If they quit or finish the price will drop because people won't pay such an idiotic price.

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It's not about lacking intelligence. You want to know a person who lacks intelligence? It's the person that undercuts an item by 1.6 million gil on the AH.

Some people have money to burn. Just how it is. I'm telling you now, next update we're going to see pouches of metal plates implemented, and I'm not talking about the sad excuse of a pouch we have now. Those are renta pouches. I'm talking real fricking pouches that unleash 50+ plates, okay. And if that wasn't the plan before it damn sure is now because I know SE has got to be catching heat from all sides and not just the NA side.

I'm convinced that 1500 number is rock solid because of the nature of the trial. SE will give us bigger pouches before they axe that 1500 number. So you can expect it next update as far as I'm concerned. Just wait it out. Let people with gil to burn use up their gils. And you can have nice things too when it's far cheaper.