NEO Nyzul 2.0

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

Order lamps appear about once every 50 floors you actually do, theyre not a big deal. If you actually ever did the event you'd know this.

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You just don't seem to understand how luck goes. There is NO predetermined order. You can go from no lamp floors to multiple.

Let me post something you may understand (doubtful): An event should be based entirely on Skill NOT Luck!

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

You just don't seem to understand how luck goes. There is NO predetermined order. You can go from no lamp floors to multiple.

Let me post something you may understand (doubtful): An event should be based entirely on Skill NOT Luck!

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This event is based entirely on skill. If you're skilled you can clear enough floors to have a good win rate and finish acquiring all the gear pretty fast.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

Order lamps appear about once every 50 floors you actually do, theyre not a big deal. If you actually ever did the event you'd know this.

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You are high or just lucky as hell if you get order lamps 1/50 floors. Show me a real statistics on this based on 1000's run with only getting 1/50's ordered lamps and not 10's or 100's run sample please. Statistics of small sample set are lol and not worth much of anything.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

This event is based entirely on skill. If you're skilled you can clear enough floors to have a good win rate and finish acquiring all the gear pretty fast.

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It's like talking to a brick wall, either trolling or simple. I'm going with the former based on your history so....

Come back when you're not trolling, Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Dreamin

You are high or just lucky as hell if you get order lamps 1/50 floors. Show me a real statistics on this based on 1000's run with only getting 1/50's ordered lamps and not 10's or 100's run sample please. Statistics of small sample set are lol and not worth much of anything.

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I only did 25~ runs and I only got 1 order floor every 2 or 3 runs. If you want specifics check the BG thread, lots of people posted their jump orders and what floors they got.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

It's like talking to a brick wall, either trolling or simple. I'm going with the former based on your history so....

Come back when you're not trolling, Thanks!

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It is like talking to a brick wall, you need to just accept that theres an event you actually have to get good gear and competent players for to clear. And after that you need to go and make some friends and try harder.

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Originally Posted by Dreamin

You are high or just lucky as hell if you get order lamps 1/50 floors. Show me a real statistics on this based on 1000's run with only getting 1/50's ordered lamps and not 10's or 100's run sample please. Statistics of small sample set are lol and not worth much of anything.

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High actually makes sense.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

This event is based entirely on skill. If you're skilled you can clear enough floors to have a good win rate and finish acquiring all the gear pretty fast.

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NO, this event is based entirely on LUCK. This is the exactly what SE said:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...82143#poststop. Specifically, let me highlight for you the exact words:

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...As a general guideline, the system has been balanced in such a way so that once you have gotten used to it, you should be able to reach floor 60. If you try really hard, you can get to floor 80, and then if luck is on your side you will able to reach floor 100.

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see that word luck, which is near Tanaka's favorite word, BALANCE? Skill alone is only supposed to get you to floor 80 and not 100th. What Tanaka failed to see that CHEATS can replace LUCK and hence, 100th becomes NO LONGER LUCK based when CHEATS can be used. Which SOME of US refuses to use, which some can agrue is foolish because clearly, SE doesn't give a damn that MOST (noticed I didnt' say ALL) ppl who are beating 100th with any consistency are ALL using CHEATS.

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Originally Posted by Dreamin

see that word luck, which is near Tanaka's favorite word, BALANCE? Skill alone is only supposed to get you to floor 80 and not 100th. What Tanaka failed to see that CHEATS can replace LUCK and hence, 100th becomes NO LONGER LUCK based when CHEATS can be used. Which SOME of US refuses to use, which some can agrue is foolish because clearly, SE doesn't give a damn that MOST (noticed I didnt' say ALL) ppl who are beating 100th with any consistency are ALL using CHEATS.

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Thats the way it was before the stopper was added. Now with it, it's vastly easier to get to 100. As long as you can get a good floor clear average (16+) you will get plenty of f100 wins.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

This event is based entirely on skill. If you're skilled you can clear enough floors to have a good win rate and finish acquiring all the gear pretty fast.

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You get a random number for how many floors you go up. You get a random objective for every floor. You get random enemys on these floors. You get random numbers of said enemys to kill. You get random spawns that can go from the room next door to the room a 3 minute walk away... For something that is entirely based on skill, this seems like alot of random things, as with all random things, random, means it has luck involved. Luck is thus present and part of the event.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

You get a random number for how many floors you go up. You get a random objective for every floor. You get random enemys on these floors. You get random numbers of said enemys to kill. You get random spawns that can go from the room next door to the room a 3 minute walk away... For something that is entirely based on skill, this seems like alot of random things, as with all random things, random, means it has luck involved. Luck is thus present and part of the event.

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If you win 10-30% off the time, thats not luck. Winning 10-30% of the time requires clearing 16-17 floors on average. Once you can do that its no longer luck. If you do 1000's of runs you will average out to this number, thats the way it works. You'll get super bad runs, and youll get super easy runs, thats not important.