[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

This has got to be the stupidest kick in the face SE has done yet, it was hard enough to get a black belt before, now they want to make it near impossible. Do a 99ksnm so you can get a pop item that does not guarantee the HQ version will pop and it is no longer a 100% drop. And no chance at all if the NQ version pops. Very disappointing SE........... Kinda like FFXIV.
I don't know about most of you but I have already dropped about 500 KS trying to get the items from the KSNM battlefields with no luck at all. Guess now It'll cost me millions to buy other people's orbs for the KSNM so i have about a 1 in 50 chance at getting 1 of the 3 items needed. /disgusted.

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Originally Posted by Madmax

This has got to be the stupidest kick in the face SE has done yet, it was hard enough to get a black belt before, now they want to make it near impossible. Do a 99ksnm so you can get a pop item that does not guarantee the HQ version will pop and it is no longer a 100% drop. And no chance at all if the NQ version pops. Very disappointing SE........... Kinda like FFXIV.
I don't know about most of you but I have already dropped about 500 KS trying to get the items from the KSNM battlefields with no luck at all. Guess now It'll cost me millions to buy other people's orbs for the KSNM so i have about a 1 in 50 chance at getting 1 of the 3 items needed. /disgusted.

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Assuming that the BB item also will be removed from the KSNM99. Then you would be right.

It said nothing about KS99 BB items being removed.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Give me a reason for people that don't want BB to waste their seal on Fafnir or Adamantoise.

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You act as if people don't like to help friends obtain gear.

What happens when people run out of seals? How are you planning on farming more? This has ramifications outside of people helping other people. What happens when you got through over 1k seals to help someone and nobody has anymore? You gonna go spend hours on end farming ks's? This system puts an expiration date on kings if anything.

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What happens when people run out of seals? How are you planning on farming more? This has ramifications outside of people helping other people. What happens when you got through over 1k seals to help someone and nobody has anymore? You gonna go spend hours on end farming ks's? This system puts an expiration date on kings if anything.

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You go kill mobs, it's not rocket surgery. Very similar to y'know, the magian trials we've all put ourselves through for the last 9 months.

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Originally Posted by Staren

What happens when people run out of seals? How are you planning on farming more? This has ramifications outside of people helping other people. What happens when you got through over 1k seals to help someone and nobody has anymore? You gonna go spend hours on end farming ks's? This system puts an expiration date on kings if anything.

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Because farming up KSs is hard. No seriously, its so hard i cant do it while i go make some elemental TotM weapons.

Do you know the average time estimation for it? Can you say its a valid ROI? I avoid the hell out of magian trials with the exceptions of empyrean armor and empyrean weapons. The rest are just great ways to blow time and I guess farm ks's. I wonder what that time sink would be solo 1 per 5 mins x 99 for 1 pop that might not drop the hq pop which is what you really want and then you need at least a couple other people. I mean if you're at home in mom and dad's basement and dont have a job or school or responsibilities...I guess this would seem feasible and acceptable for people who wanted pops for Kings. I know the most efficient way to do it but that still is a best case scenario of 2.5hrs for one pop. So again ROI, level of reasonable time invested, 99% of the games population doesnt have the patience to level outside abby anymore good luck convincing people to waste over 3 hrs of their life for one ksnm run and one chance at an hq pop item.

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Originally Posted by Staren

Do you know the average time estimation for it? Can you say its a valid ROI? I avoid the hell out of magian trials with the exceptions of empyrean armor and empyrean weapons. The rest are just great ways to blow time and I guess farm ks's. I wonder what that time sink would be solo 1 per 5 mins x 99 for 1 pop that might not drop the hq pop which is what you really want and then you need at least a couple other people. I mean if you're at home in mom and dad's basement and dont have a job or school or responsibilities...I guess this would seem feasible and acceptable for people who wanted pops for Kings. I know the most efficient way to do it but that still is a best case scenario of 2.5hrs for one pop. So again ROI, reason ability, 99% of the games population doesnt have the patience to level outside abby anymore good luck convincing people to waste over 3 hrs of their life for one ksnm run and one chance at an hq pop item.

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I guess if nothing else drops from KSNM99/NQ/HQ, then you would be right.

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Originally Posted by Staren

Do you know the average time estimation for it? Can you say its a valid ROI? I avoid the hell out of magian trials with the exceptions of empyrean armor and empyrean weapons. The rest are just great ways to blow time and I guess farm ks's. I wonder what that time sink would be solo 1 per 5 mins x 99 for 1 pop that might not drop the hq pop which is what you really want and then you need at least a couple other people. I mean if you're at home in mom and dad's basement and dont have a job or school or responsibilities...I guess this would seem feasible and acceptable for people who wanted pops for Kings. I know the most efficient way to do it but that still is a best case scenario of 2.5hrs for one pop. So again ROI, reason ability, 99% of the games population doesnt have the patience to level outside abby anymore good luck convincing people to waste over 3 hrs of their life for one ksnm run and one chance at an hq pop item.

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At least now people who have lives can slowly work on getting pops for a chance at the item rather then being unable to since they cant be on when they pop. Sure they can just reduce the pop time to 2.5 hours for each of them, but then really that's just handing out BB on a silver platter. Let it some rareity to it.