Christ SE, would it kill you to update the flavor text on Stratagems? Accession has never worked on all Healing or Enhancing magic, just change it to "Extends the effect of certain white magic spells ....." and follow through with the rest. Change Enlightenment to "Allows access to both addenda for your next spell" since it has never optimized both Arts - better yet just copy the effect Tabula Rasa gives to it, but who am I to suggest something that should be common sense?
Though, if getting the spells natively is the criteria for making poorly worded Stratagems work with them, I think I just found more fuel to my "Give Scholar native access to basic enfeebling spells" fire. If Accession Paralyze already works, I'm going to complain at SE for specifically stating Haste wouldn't work with it, but never mentioning what new spells will work with it. Can't say I'm a fan of shadow adjustments, though hopefully they pull one for Modus when lowering its recasts, not that I'd be happy at them for avoiding taking fault and acting like there was never anything wrong with it.
Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto
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08-29-2011, 11:34 AMSotek
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08-29-2011, 11:56 AMKarbuncleNo you can't, Sad day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karbuncle
Didn't work with EnDark either
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08-29-2011, 12:04 PMEconomizerConsidering the new link of mini-2hour spells for many of the jobs (mainly Red Mage and Black Mage), this would be a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sotek
Ability: All magic is optimized, and you can use any Stratagems for the next spell you cast. Stratagems are free.
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08-29-2011, 04:08 PMRakshaCan't use Perpetuance either ;_;Quote:
Originally Posted by Merton9999
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08-29-2011, 05:50 PMEric
Embrava is 4tp per tick regain at level 95. More info from the test server coming soon. Kaustra (wearing SCH AF +2) did 700-ish damage on mobs in Valkurm, and 288 dmg on Clionids in Abyssea. All of this is with every single magic skill capped. ; ; Will try with elemental seal in a bit.
Edit: Here are some images.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/kaustra2.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/kaustra3.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/embrava.png/
Edit #2: I think Kaustra might be broken on the test server, because none of the mobs I used it on showed any signs of slip damage, including a few mandragoras in sarutabaruta and sheep in valkurm as a level 30. -
08-29-2011, 06:52 PMSpankWustlerGiven the huge change in damage between low and high Intelligence targets, the initial damage might not be broken and may just be heavily reliant on dINT just like Helix spells. I would be less than shocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
Maybe try it in your helix set and see if the result makes you feel less like using a kitten to smother an infant? I mean, I fully expect you'll still feel that way about the result, just not to such an extent. -
08-30-2011, 12:12 AMAnk
My apologies if spikes actually does work with manifestation, thanks for the super secret ninja buff who ever you are. Clearly I am defeat, I'll try to make the point clearer in the future.
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08-30-2011, 12:48 AMSotekNot really my complaint. Enlightenment reads that it should give you equal access to both Arts just like Tabula Rasa, however all it does it give you access to both Addendum, if you're in Dark Arts and you want to cast Reraise II you'll still get a 20% increase in MP cost and cast time, when according to its description it should have a 10% reduction in both. Though ideally I want Enlightenment to switch you to the other Addendum, since I've never seen any real use in casting a single spell from the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Economizer
Free Stratagem for the next spell you cast is actually a suggestion I've put out though, albeit slightly differently - next spell doesn't use up Stratagems while still gaining their full effect. The effect from the ability would wear off rather than the Stratagems, it'd be very useful for things like Immanence and buffing and Stratagem management in general.
Ideally a Tabula Rasa update would have given it a effect just like that (the AF3 boss NPC gets this exact effect) rather than just extending the duration by 50%, since mine - and most peoples - biggest complaint with it is the massive loss of time reapplying Stratagems. Even with the duration increase I'm still going to be losing a great deal of time between spells reapplying. Though from what I gathered from the description, the Black and Red Mage abilities can be used on targets, a Scholar version of that isn't exactly as useful, Stratagems are limited to Scholar and /Scholar, while instant cast and free MP cost are universally useful for Mages. -
08-30-2011, 01:17 AMMerton9999<Yawn> Color me surprised that the two hour spells are this pathetic. Libra, Animus and Adloquium all over again. If Kaustra stays that disappointing I'm actually glad they changed the name from Merton. I wouldn't want my favorite spell name to be so gimpy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
Thanks for the info, though, Eric. This is what I get for being a spoiler junkie I guess. Out of curiosity what atmas were you using for the sand sweeper damage? tbh the 800ish value isn't that much higher than a normal Aby helix with the right atmas. If the only benefit of this spell is slightly higher damage and AOE every two hours/chest I won't know what to do but laugh.
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Yeah I forgot I was disappointed at not being able to use perpetuance with spikes too. At this point I'm still just glad it works. I'm kind of scared at mentioning it here though. The way the animation goes off it actually looks like a bug when the party receives the effect. Hopefully it doesn't get nerfed. -
08-30-2011, 01:23 AMEricIt's worth noting that the dmg I was doing was with incredibly crappy gear (although still full AF+2 like the mithra in the teaser video). What worried me at first was that since the dINT between a level 95 and a Damselfly is so large, that 800~1000 was going to be near the cap, but it remains to be seen how damage for this spell is calculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merton9999
Furthermore with some more help from Google Translate, I was able to see on the forums that a very well-geared JP player was able to do 1.3k dmg with it, so it's not completely disappointing if the DoT is per tick and not once every 10 seconds as with helices.
What worries me is that the spell description says nothing about slip damage, and every time I've used it on the test server, I was unable to get the spell to do DoT damage. I really hope this is just a glitch.