Walk of the no Coin drops??? formerly Walk of echoes

Just to be clear, I understand exactly what you are asking for in terms of a reward system. I will be re-submitting feedback with your suggestions again and see if I can make this a bit clearer for the development team. Give me a bit of time and I will try and get a response.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Alrighty everyone, as I mentioned earlier I submitted your feedback to the development team and got a response from them.

Their idea and the current specifications are set so that you are guaranteed a reward by receiving a personal treasure chest, but getting exactly what you want each time is a difficult request.

They also commented that changing this to a lotting system is fine; however, since Walk of Echoes is a non-reserve system, you are playing with a maximum of 36 characters at the same time and if everyone single person says they want a specific item, you might not receive a reward at all. The development team wants to make sure you are okay with that.

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Could make it the best of both worlds, personal chests with a Union-type chest that spawns at the end of the battle which has a higher chance of having higher grade loot in it, but is also up for lots against other people.

I think my biggest problem with the loot is how silly some of it is. I was in a group that completed conflux 10, and I got a two leaf mandragora bud for my trouble, among other minor things. Later I completed conflux 11 and got a bone chip, among other things.

I can understand that everything can't be awesome, but bone chips and mandragora buds simply are not loot worth putting into a end game event.

tldr; I'd like to see them reevaluate the rewards obtainable from WoE, because a lot of it is terrible.

The lotting system from before was crap; PLEASE do not give that back to us. Rather, give a function like in abyssea where you could transfer items from gold chests to the loot pool for lotting. And allow those drops to be free lotted by people in the same zone.

Clear a flux, and you a personal pool.
Take the item(s) you need/want.
If there are extra items left over, you have the choice to add them into a pool for everyone to lot.

That seems perfectly fair to me. Though I assume there'd be problems with what I mentioned?

Why not make it a system similar to Einherjar ichor? I never understood why SE never used that system more. It works really well... earn some form of tokens for killing mobs in WoE (or killing bosses, or clearing fluxes, anything) and exchange those for cards you actually want.


Edit: bad grammar. It's late here. Shhh...

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Originally Posted by Camate

Just to be clear, I understand exactly what you are asking for in terms of a reward system. I will be re-submitting feedback with your suggestions again and see if I can make this a bit clearer for the development team. Give me a bit of time and I will try and get a response.

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Thanks for taking a lot of the players' rage Camate, and we know it's not your fault. :)

The current personal chest can remain. As is, I'm like 0/30+ on new scrolls while probably sitting on about 10 misc coins and 11 die. I'm not really in WoE for coins at the moment, anyway.

However...

Like others have noted, implement a currency system like Ichor, Allied Notes, Conquest Points, and so on. Let the amount of this you receive be 1/4 your EXP rate, so a 15000 EXP clear would get you 3750 WoE points. While most people seem to be reporting numbers around half that, you can balance Coin costs from the new related vendor around maybe 3-4 clears, or 5000 WoE points for a coin. On the other hand, SE could also make it pouches for 25000 points, where if you're lucky you could beat that average, or not and get like 3 coins instead of 5 for the same. And since you'd still be getting chest loot, a WoE weapon won't take nearly as long as it does now.

Additionally, all the current equipment found in the various fluxes should be available from this vendor, maybe 100000 apiece. Not all will be worth that, obviously, but it'd help take the sting out of people not doing specific fluxes despite them having something you'd want, and in the rare chance you could do it, the drop wouldn't come anyway.

People won't be grinding WoE forever, so maintaining some means of individual or low-man progress needs to remain, which also means EXP and WoE Points need to be rewarded even if you don't get the clear.

Ok, run #33 was my best run in terms of getting exp. 11.5k exp, no deaths on my SMN.

This was my loot...

Revival Tree Root
Silver Ore
Wyvern Scales
Unicorn Horn
Phrygian Ore

REALLY? More than 11k exp and this is all I get? Now you can understand why a vast majority of the playerbase is upset, Camate.

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Originally Posted by Darkvalkyr

Thanks for taking a lot of the players' rage Camate, and we know it's not your fault. :)

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Haha, I have special rare/ex rings that absorb that kind of stuff. Pretty high proc rate too :)

But on a serious note, I am here for you guys ;)

just want to point out that all these little items that you guys don't want help the economy, these little items provide ways for people starting out in new crafts where as before the materials just were not there.

Additionally, if they made the rare drops common, then they would be worthless so why bother.

Finally the coin system does kinda suck, would be nice if you could trade one type of coin for another at a 2 for 1 rate.