Is anyone particularly happy with the new gear from New Salvage?

I agree NNI isn't that hard at all with the right people, but finding people good enough for it can be hard whereas anyone can do salvage (killed arrapago boss with a terribly geared whm and perle bst!). I've got the pieces I need from NNI, so any more is just a bonus in that respect. But yea I agree salvage takes longer and sometimes the rewards don't fit in with a certain set, and to get that set can be harder in its own right than just spamming NNI. But they aren't 100% useless at least.

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Originally Posted by Jaall

Just made this up also http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/286616. Pretty much perfect tp wise and using Ares hands+1. I'm sure you could substitute some of the store TP for double and triple attack to make it perfect but I was just seeing what I could make using at least 1 Ares, proving my point that it is still useful even in the best sets. I wouldn't use this set though, I love the look of the first set I made.

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Your set has 2 sets of hands but that doesn't really affect the bottom line. Also haste is not capped.

Anyway most 5-hit builds either have haste body/Ogier hands or AF3 body and Brego. It's very true that you can replace Brego with Ares +1 if that's the setup you use. If that's your setup then yes, Ares +1 is definitely something you can plug in there. I give.

Sorry yea, I deleted them second hands now and it's pretty much capped seeing as 25% is cap but gear isn't accurate. There will be a tiny difference but really not that noticeable so many people regard 25% as cap as well as 26, 26 being ideal. But yea it could be slightly better I was just playing around with ideas, I'm sure with a little more thought you could fix it to be perfect. Just proving my point that the new salvage pieces aren't completely useless like a lot of people have said, just needs a bit of experimenting to find where they work nicely.

This set would also work too.... http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/286619. Could swap out pole grip for rose strap if you need extra store tp, due to lack in WS.

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Originally Posted by Jaall

This set would also work too.... http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/286619. Could swap out pole grip for rose strap if you need extra store tp, due to lack in WS.

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Do you actually math out your sets or just look for 25/26% haste and the right amount of STP and call it a day? I ask because you're giving up Triple Attack and Quadrupedal Attack options just to try and justify the Salvage 2 gear.

Making the point they work, like I've said before a few posts ago, never said I wanted to be the best so why should I math them? But I'm sure there are fixes to all that. Zagen I'm not sure what your deal is, but please just be happy you don't have to do salvage maybe and stop complaining?

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Originally Posted by Jaall

Making the point they work, like I've said before a few posts ago, never said I wanted to be the best so why should I math them? But I'm sure there are fixes to all that. Zagen I'm not sure what your deal is, but please just be happy you don't have to do salvage maybe and stop complaining?

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Simple, someone who doesn't know any better might actually think your gear sets are good sets to aim for instead of being sets that are made to justify your personal feelings on Salvage 2 gear needing to be used by DRG.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

Simple, someone who doesn't know any better might actually think your gear sets are good sets to aim for instead of being sets that are made to justify your personal feelings on Salvage 2 gear needing to be used by DRG.

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So, back to topic, if we have to make less than optimal sets to satisfy personal feelings that this is gear we should be using, are we really all that happy? Maybe I am being nostalgic, but I was waiting for Salvage II to present us with top gear along the lines of the original Salvage and I still believe it failed to do that.

Now I am hoping for Salvage III to give me amazing +2.

There will never be an amazing salvage II because SE have switched NI with salvage, why can't people accept that? Why does everyone expect better than the already amazing Phorcys? Also if people are that much of a hardcore player, they will figure the math out for themselves rather than take advice from someone who said on multiple occasions that I play to look good. My sets work, but they are not the best, unless looking good is what you're aiming for, then they're fantastic.

Also who said SE wanted to make good drops from salvage II and didn't just want to please the community by bringing some fun back. Who said there was even a point to salvage II? It's just another event in a huge line of endgame. If you don't like it don't do it. It's not like you can't still do Salvage I. And a lot of things change in this game, most relevant being the 75-99 cap increase but nobody can go back in time so all you can do is deal with the changes and move on. Playing the game isn't compulsory, if you don't like it, don't play it, it's really really simple.

You're reaching... You actually played the "if you don't like it, don't play it card." Many posters in this thread have agreed that there are many worthwhile salvage pieces. I just happen to think that for DRG, Ares isn't that great. You responded by making many crazy tp sets which have many questionable choices, trying to justify including Ares +1 while acknowledging that your sets aren't the best. One of those sets requires Wrathwing Nails which is 25m on my server and another includes Houyi's Gorget.

It's okay to say that Salvage +1 gear is an option for people because every piece of gear is an option. To a Perle DD, yeah it looks great. But you have to recognize it for what it is and understand that some people will be disappointed with it. And I'm only talking about Ares, as there are many must-own pieces in the other sets.