Will there be additional Abyssea type zones?

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Originally Posted by Camate

We spoke to the development team about whether new Abyssea zones would be added, but they said that they currently do not have any plans of doing so.

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I just had to come back to say... Thank God. Camate, I could kiss you right now.

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Originally Posted by Camate

It's awesome to hear that so many of you are enjoying all of the current Abyssea content and are craving more!

We spoke to the development team about whether new Abyssea zones would be added, but they said that they currently do not have any plans of doing so. No need to fret though, as there is still a ton of great content on the way as outlined in the road map!

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Thank Altana! Abyssea has been great for the game. I'm glad casual people got a chance to gear themselves out, and feel super awesome. The ridiculous easy mode overpowered herp a derpy AoA tards need a reality check now. We need some some difficult engaging content in a variety of areas. Not the same 9 over, and over again day after day. The only problem with old school dynamis, or Sea, Salvage w/e was the abysmal drop rates.

I'm a little relieved.

I loved Abyssea, but I'm also happy they already have plans for different content 91+.

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Originally Posted by Akujima

I just had to come back to say... Thank God. Camate, I could kiss you right now.

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Why are you still playing if you don't like this game anymore?

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Why are you still playing if you don't like this game anymore?

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I see you assume that all there is to do in this game is Abyssea then.

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Originally Posted by Akujima

I see you assume that all there is to do in this game is Abyssea then?

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I believe he is simply assuming you have expressed nothing but distaste with this game, how its played, where its going, and its current state, He naturally assumes that someone who so passionately hates a service, would not use said service.

I know If i hated 90% of this games content, I would likely cease paying SE monthly to hate the game.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

I believe he is simply assuming you have expressed nothing but distaste with this game, how its played, where its going, and its current state, He naturally assumes that someone who so passionately hates a service, would not use said service.

I know If i hated 90% of this games content, I would likely cease paying SE monthly to hate the game.

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This is the normal action one would assume taking.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

I believe he is simply assuming you have expressed nothing but distaste with this game, how its played, where its going, and its current state, He naturally assumes that someone who so passionately hates a service, would not use said service.

I know If i hated 90% of this games content, I would likely cease paying SE monthly to hate the game.

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Hammer.
Nail.

Need I say more? Thanks Karby

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Originally Posted by Zaknafein

The ridiculous easy mode overpowered herp a derpy AoA tards need a reality check now. We need some some difficult engaging content in a variety of areas.

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You seem to be saying this like we had such content at some point in time. I assure you, since 2006, everything has been easy. And for some people, it's been easy far longer then that.

Its not like any of the game was ever hard. dyna at 75 was a joke, limbus at 75 bigger joke, sky it was so easy a few rmt could do it. Ground the mobs them selfs were easy getting claim not so much. Salvage grab a couple of mnks and pups toss in a healer or 2 easy, crappy drop rates for side grade gear and you had to pick it over other parts of the same expanion. I love the game but don't act like it was hard.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

I believe he is simply assuming you have expressed nothing but distaste with this game, how its played, where its going, and its current state, He naturally assumes that someone who so passionately hates a service, would not use said service.

I know If i hated 90% of this games content, I would likely cease paying SE monthly to hate the game.

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Because I express concern about the direction the game is headed, and choose to voice my opinion about it, you take it upon yourself to view that concern as distaste? So maybe I do have a tad bit of nostalgia when it comes to this game, but so what.

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But I've said what I had to and I'll learn my lesson to stop posting eventually.

I have other reasons (like friends) who enjoy taking their time, and not feeling they have to rush towards endgame because the world is going to end any minute now. I have a PvP Linkshell and I enjoy grouping at lower Lvls. And I'm hoping that my concern which I expressed to SE is heard, so that they can get a better idea of what to add for content at Lv99. Until then, I'll be waiting.

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Originally Posted by Akujima

Because I express concern about the direction the game is headed, and choose to voice my opinion about it, you take it upon yourself to view that concern as distaste? So maybe I do have a tad bit of nostalgia when it comes to this game, but so what.

On the contrary. These forums are distasteful. Being filled with slime bucket elitists, who go around trolling everyone because they aren't PT'ing with bards, dancers and corsairs so they can hit 80% Haste Cap. I feel like I'm going to have a heart-attack every time I post. I wonder how they can take themselves so seriously sometimes and have the nerve to try and warp peoples viewpoints, yet call us out for being hypocrites if we make a thread about what we believe to be poor game design (Lv30 Abyssea Cap).

But I've said what I had to and I'll learn my lesson to stop posting eventually.

I have other reasons (like friends) who enjoy taking their time, and not feeling they have to rush towards endgame because the world is going to end any minute now. I have a PvP Linkshell and I enjoy grouping at lower Lvls. And I'm hoping that my concern which I expressed to SE is heard, so that they can get a better idea of what to add for content at Lv99. Until then, I'll be waiting.

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Shot answer, Yes.

Long answer, You expressed nothing but "concern" where the game is heading, Theres nothing wrong with that, Its what these forums are for! However Until this very post you I haven't read a single positive thing about this game from you (Though, I haven't searched hard...).

I was only making the logical conclusion, through your own posts, That you do not enjoy the game in its current state. as such, one would suspect If someone so openly and loudly disliked a product, they would not be paying to use that product.

You also seem to be overusing the term "Troll". The problem with you (regarding this word only), and half of these forums regarding this word, is that your definition of troll is "Anyone who disagrees with me". Just because someone will always come and defend what is right, and use math to back up their opinion, does not deem them a troll.

You also express how this forum is distasteful, when you yourself have contributed to the unruly rabble that infests some threads on this forum. Including multiple passive shots at random other posters on this forum in topics not even related to them, Creating problems where none would normally be. This isn't always true, But i have witnessed it in a few threads.

You're entitled to continue playing, I was only giving you a second possible explanation for KORPGs post. Thats all.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Shot answer, Yes.

Long answer, You express nothing but "concern" where the game is heading. Until this very post you I haven't read a single positive thing about this game from you (Though, I haven't searched hard...).

I was only making the logical conclusion, through your own posts, That you do not enjoy the game in its current state. as such, one would suspect If someone so openly and loudly disliked a product, they would not be paying to use that product.

You also seem to be overusing the term "Troll". The problem with you, and half of these forums regarding this word, is that your definition of troll is "Anyone who disagrees with me, and voices their opinion as well". You say you simply want to voice your opinion, while in turn, your second paragraph is basically a giant shot at anyone who in turn voices their opinions, different or similar, from your own. People who passionately disagree with you are not trolls, They are simply as assured in their way as you are in yours.

Basically, your post Is a hypocritical mess. You also express how this forum is distasteful, when you yourself have contributed to the unruly rabble that infests some threads on this forum. Including multiple passive shots at random other posters on this forum in topics not even related to them, Creating problems where none would normally be. This isn't always true, But i have witnessed it in a few threads.

You're entitled to continue playing, I was only giving you a second possible explanation for KORPGs post.

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Listen. I ain't reading your post, because you're just trying to get me to quit the game or convince me to think of myself in a negative way. If you defend KORPG's post, then I'm grouping you in with him, simple as that.

I have my own viewpoint, you and KORPG have yours. Karb: If you don't want me to respond to you that way, then try not side with people who are just ganna get you caught in $#!%.


EDIT: I'll be in my PvP thread from now on.

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Originally Posted by Akujima

Listen. I ain't reading your post, because you're just trying to get me to quit the game or convince me to think of myself in a negative way. If you defend KORPG's post, then I'm grouping you in with him, simple as that.

I have my own viewpoint, you and KORPG have yours. Karb: If you don't want me to respond to you that way, then try not side with people who are just ganna get you caught in $#!%.

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I'm not trying to get you to quit the game. Your absolutely wrong in that regard. You really should read before you may such a bold statement.

Just because you are so used to criticism does not mean you should assume everyone who responds to you is giving such.

I also have expressed that you're able to give your viewpoint, However I simply don't feel you should claim everyone a troll or respond with sarcastic rebuttal to every poster quoting you, like you have been.

You didn't bold, underline, or italicize anything in your post Karb. Of course it won't get read.

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Originally Posted by Akujima

Listen. I ain't reading your post, because you're just trying to get me to quit the game or convince me to think of myself in a negative way. If you defend KORPG's post, then I'm grouping you in with him, simple as that.

I have my own viewpoint, you and KORPG have yours. Karb: If you don't want me to respond to you that way, then try not side with people who are just ganna get you caught in $#!%.


EDIT: I'll be in my PvP thread from now on.

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Because everyone has a different point of view means you won't listen to them?

GG, did I do it right?

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Originally Posted by Akujima

On the contrary. These forums are distasteful. Being filled with slime bucket elitists, who go around trolling everyone because they aren't PT'ing with bards, dancers and corsairs so they can hit 80% Haste Cap.

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You don't need all that to reach 80% haste. This is the kind of thing the people you negatively call elitists come around and correct you on. It's not terrible to know how the game works so you can be more effective, you should really learn more about it so you don't spew this kind of nonsense all the time.

From my viewpoint:
The problem is, if I leave this statement out there and not correct it, people might think you actually need a bard, cor and dnc to cap haste, because that is what you are implying. I want to stop the spread of incorrect information, so I have to make a post and say this is wrong so people reading the thread and don't know that it is wrong will not believe it to be true. This in turn is good for the community as a whole, because now everyone is smarter, and won't over haste.

You call this trolling, but in actuality, trolling is you saying something so wrong to begin with, not me correcting you.

Besides, what you say vs what everyone else says, who is SE going to listen?

I think it's pretty safe to say Abyssea is done and over with.


How could it possibly continue? I'm guessing you either haven't beaten Shinryu yet, or are just blindly hoping for more. Either way it's very unlikely and I think we've had enough of it. MAYBE they could add a couple new zones for 99, but I'd rather we actually get some entirely new areas to visit rather than more rehashing of older zones.

Unless of course we get to go back in time once again, but to Al'Tieu before it was destroyed by Bahaut - I've always wanted to visit the Zilart Cities (and Tavnazia for that matter) before they fell into ruin.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

You seem to be saying this like we had such content at some point in time. I assure you, since 2006, everything has been easy. And for some people, it's been easy far longer then that.

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Saying the abyssea era was equal to 75 content in terms of difficulty is silly. Was 75 content a breeze with the correct jobs, and players who had a clue sure. Was it equal to abyssea in terms of difficulty.. get real

I would hope to see this Roadmap content be based on how many people enter this type of area, so it can range to big HNNMLS and smaller groups of people but yet have somewhat even difficulty based on # of members in area or fighting that mob.

tired of abyssea atma / curor buffs have spoild people and made things easy like doing things out side of abyssea way more

Really any noob could do all of the old endgame nothing has been hard since its strat was posted on wiki. Hardest part was and still is finding 5 to 17 other people that are not completly retarded.

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

Really any noob could do all of the old endgame nothing has been hard since its strat was posted on wiki. Hardest part was and still is finding 5 to 17 other people that are not completly retarded.

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Cannot be more true.

Welcome to FFXI, where the core of the gameplay is waiting.

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Originally Posted by Camate

It's awesome to hear that so many of you are enjoying all of the current Abyssea content and are craving more!

We spoke to the development team about whether new Abyssea zones would be added, but they said that they currently do not have any plans of doing so. No need to fret though, as there is still a ton of great content on the way as outlined in the road map!

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needs stuff like improving lottery pop NMs, i really hate doing three hours in window for an NM to pop ... with a 5 min repop time

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It's awesome to hear that so many of you are enjoying all of the current Abyssea content and are craving more!

We spoke to the development team about whether new Abyssea zones would be added, but they said that they currently do not have any plans of doing so. No need to fret though, as there is still a ton of great content on the way as outlined in the road map!

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Well thats a little sad to hear, I hope the dev team works on what has been a major success with Aby and not try to go back to the old ways at least. Old stuff worked at the time but Aby changed the game and the old way would cause riots now.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

You seem to be saying this like we had such content at some point in time. I assure you, since 2006, everything has been easy. And for some people, it's been easy far longer then that.

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Yeah, I mean, all those times you beat AV and PW, sure was easy right? Right? Oh wait you're talking out of your ass.

AV was not beatable. The 2hour trick SE posted in thier little vid was tested so many time it was shot down and flamed everytime it came. Turns out if you didn't hit your 2hour as soon as used it and wait that extra sec for it to show in log it was to late to lock. That was at best a gimic the player base rejected cause even finding a un bannable way to beat it SE changed the rules. After Perfect def was released AV became easy with us of smn. AV was downed hundreds of times in the first week that PD was out. PW was never endgame since it also used 4 rare drops need for mystic upgrades. Only fools wasted thier zeni to pop a mob that had crap gear not much better then other endgame gear. Every other endgame event outside of 2 gimic mobs was cake walk to beat. Only gimps had a hard time, even then they still seemed to do good enough.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

Well thats a little sad to hear, I hope the dev team works on what has been a major success with Aby and not try to go back to the old ways at least. Old stuff worked at the time but Aby changed the game and the old way would cause riots now.

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I agree,
But I dont think SE is going the old route with FFXI.
They making different contents but its not going to be abyssea related.
It will be more accessible for majority to play and still enjoy character progression and gameplay.
So no need to worry.

I don't know about that arlan they are already starting to back slide. Most of the gear for Voidwalker is side grade gear. Most of the player base might give it a try but with few worth wild rewards it'll die off. Sad to say that but thats the truth.

No Your right about the reward from new content... Its crap.

What they should of done is made it that you have to do VoidWatcher to upgrade your AF3+2 into AF3+3.
Something like that would work very well. The content is good but the reward, not so much.

Also, for lvl99 cap new content with a reward of AF3+4 with TOTALLY NEW DESIGN would BE kick ass if they do that.
Content is fine just need to make reward worth doing in a way to not ditch AF3 from abyssea.

Well it happen with Salvage as soon as they released AF2/AF1+1 bodys for blu. It kill my Salvage group as half of us were after a refresh body for blu. Why spend months trying to get 3 rare drops and mils of gil if a common drop existed in a completed state in another endgame. It will be really hard for SE to replace AF+2 as most jobs can now reach gear haste cap, and 2handers getting 5 hits builds. Still hate to be in thier place. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I think most of the people that believe content at 75 was hard in challenging, most likely did not do said content with a solid group.

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

Yeah, I mean, all those times you beat AV and PW, sure was easy right? Right? Oh wait you're talking out of your ass.

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Never had enough people/interest in beating PW, but AV, ya it was easy, wall of justice and prenerf KC DRK zerg kicked its butt. If anyone ever figured out how to lock it's 2 hours/prevent braclet mode/just prevent aeroga and meteor I'm sure it would of been killed legitly too.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

I think most of the people that believe content at 75 was hard in challenging, most likely did not do said content with a solid group.

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This.

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Originally Posted by Arlan

Also, for lvl99 cap new content with a reward of AF3+4 with TOTALLY NEW DESIGN would BE kick ass

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Just wanted to say I'm against the new design part. The rest I'm ok with.

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Originally Posted by Camate

It's awesome to hear that so many of you are enjoying all of the current Abyssea content and are craving more!

We spoke to the development team about whether new Abyssea zones would be added, but they said that they currently do not have any plans of doing so. No need to fret though, as there is still a ton of great content on the way as outlined in the road map!

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Thank god for that, Abyssea killed any skill needed in this game.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

I think most of the people that believe content at 75 was hard in challenging, most likely did not do said content with a solid group.

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I think most of the people that so desperately want everyone to know "just" how easy content was for them @75 are more often than not the new age Elitest. Players who were for the most part average @75, and now that the abyssea easy mode has allowed them to wear af3+2s, and sport 2 empy's they've convinced themselves they were always godlike.

I don't want to see more abyssean areas, I want to see new areas with new content that is superlative to Abyssea. I'm sick of spending ALL my time in Abyssea (literally).

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Originally Posted by Zaknafein

I think most of the people that so desperately want everyone to know "just" how easy content was for them @75 are more often than not the new age Elitest. Players who were for the most part average @75, and now that the abyssea easy mode has allowed them to wear af3+2s, and sport 2 empy's they've convinced themselves they were always godlike.

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Yeah, that has to be it. A lot of people like to wear their nostalgic glasses when it comes to XI. Most everything was able to be done with a party of 6 at 75, only difference would be Einherjar that I can think off of the top of my head.

Do I think im better than anyone because I have AF3+2s and Empys? Nope. They are pretty easy to get when you surround your self with good people. Im not delusional and think its some major accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Yeah, that has to be it. A lot of people like to wear their nostalgic glasses when it comes to XI. Most everything was able to be done with a party of 6 at 75, only difference would be Einherjar that I can think off of the top of my head.

Do I think im better than anyone because I have AF3+2s and Empys? Nope. They are pretty easy to get when you surround your self with good people. Im not delusional and think its some major accomplishment.

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Einherjar was one of if not my most favorite event. Wish they would add some relevant drops or trials maybe to revitalize it.