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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Will there be additional Abyssea type zones?

    I know the story arc for Abyssea is over, however given just how popular it has been, how many players it has brought back AND how many people bought 2nd accounts to play both chars on this content it would be kinda silly not to add more Abyssea type zones.

    A lot of serious XI players now have bought, leveled and continue to pay for unique subs on alt accounts. This is mainly due to Abyssea type content where atmas make using 2 chars at once a decent prospect. Although it would be good to see more difficult party/alliance content I think it would be a big mistake to not add more of this type of Abyssea stuff and indeed not see it as the most important part of current FFXI(people will cancel these alt accounts if there is no further reason for them) and most content hardcore players like will be a turnoff to almost everyone else.

    In a game with lilmited appeal to new gamers it makes sense to not lose on all these additional subscriptions players are going into, there is plenty of room for new Abyssea copy zones. If number of zones is a problem remake certain useless zones into Aby ones.

    So yeah Abyssea is the most important content for everyone and looking at the next 12 month content I think it will continue to be, not expanding on Abyssea I think will be a big mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    So yeah Abyssea is the most important content for everyone and looking at the next 12 month content I think it will continue to be, not expanding on Abyssea I think will be a big mistake.

    Be prepared for a $#!% ton of opposition.

    I'll quit and I know many others who will too, if they keep giving us more Abyssea or Abyssea style content. It's played out to no end. Give us a new expansion, new zones, new bosses and a storyline that wasn't written for a saturday morning cartoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    Be prepared for a $#!% ton of opposition.

    I'll quit and I know many others who will too, if they keep giving us more Abyssea or Abyssea style content. It's played out to no end. Give us a new expansion, new zones, new bosses and a storyline that wasn't written for a saturday morning cartoon.
    Promises, promises...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    Be prepared for a $#!% ton of opposition.

    I'll quit and I know many others who will too, if they keep giving us more Abyssea or Abyssea style content. It's played out to no end. Give us a new expansion, new zones, new bosses and a storyline that wasn't written for a saturday morning cartoon.
    PS2 Limitations. New expansion and new zones are not possible. New bosses, however... Well go look at voidwatch.

    Either way, no one quits FFXI. They just go on hiatus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    PS2 Limitations. New expansion and new zones are not possible. New bosses, however... Well go look at voidwatch.

    Either way, no one quits FFXI. They just go on hiatus.
    Your entire post contains misinformation. Its not PS2 limitations, PS2 HDD has TONNES of space left. New expansions and new zones ARE possible. Read the expansion threads that have been created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    Your entire post contains misinformation. Its not PS2 limitations, PS2 HDD has TONNES of space left. New expansions and new zones ARE possible. Read the expansion threads that have been created.
    Your post contains misinformation.

    PS2 Limitations aren't 100% regarding HDD space, it's regarding actual memory allocation and XI iirc is nearing it's zone cap that the PS2 can handle, it's why we won't see the North, South, West or Far east lands more than likely, but instancing zones (e.g Bastok Markets, Bastok Markets [s] etc) seem to do well. So I'm expecting city abysseas soon.

    Make it happen, SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    You sound like your mad cause all the noobs can get the good gear now. I will never understand why people get so upset cause everyone can get the good endgame gear now if they have the time to do it.
    Because some people believe that good gear should take a lot of time and effort to obtain, which is a valid belief. This is a matter of opinion after all. Not everyone plays to be the best, but to feel an achievement for getting where they are, a feeling that is (for the most part) lost with Abyssea.

    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I can never uderstand how anyone can say any one video game is repetitve. They all are especially this one no matter what you do.
    There's different degrees of repetition. This is a whole new level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    PS2 Limitations aren't 100% regarding HDD space, it's regarding actual memory allocation and XI iirc is nearing it's zone cap that the PS2 can handle, it's why we won't see the North, South, West or Far east lands more than likely, but instancing zones (e.g Bastok Markets, Bastok Markets [s] etc) seem to do well. So I'm expecting city abysseas soon.
    That argument doesn't hold water, since the Abyssea zones have seperate memory entries as well as seperate DATs for the zones themselves. They're in every respect new zones. The only limitation is SE's resources to put more effort into it.

    I would really like to see new census numbers. Everyone keeps saying Abyssea revived FFXI, which in my experience couldn't be more wrong. When Abyssea was initially released about as many people joined or returned to the game as have quit because of it. And when it was released it was considered a very new and fun experience, which is why many people praised it, and this includes almost everyone who blames it for destroying the game now. Lately all I see everywhere around me is people quitting, and all of them for more or less the same reason: "the game is no fun anymore". I wish I had actual numbers to back this up, but I don't, which is why I really hope some numbers regarding this are included in the next census.

    I observed three stages to Abyssea:

    1) After release some people were annoyed that all their achievements were basically annulled and quit the game. Others welcomed the new content and new challenge, while appreciating the eased level, but still to some degree rewarding old content.

    2) People figured out Atma efficiency and Weakness staggers. AF3 and Atma kept raining in, while Empyrean Weapons became a realistic goal to many people. Old content was largely ignored, because more time was invested in new stuff, and with the next two level increases, it lost even more in its usefulness.

    3) Empyrean Weapon grinding. Most people have what they need and just keep going on and on, for no reason other than having a better weapon, which makes little to no difference in the first place, since there's no content which requires it. This one may change with future updates (not really by a noticeable amount with this one). But at this point many people had enough, even some of the early Empyrean Weapon grinders.

    By now I know a lot of people who quit. A few old players came back to check it out, some are quickly catching up to the point of being annoyed again, others have already quit as well. Again, this is just my personal observation, but I see it in such a large amount, I find the argument that Abyssea revived FFXI really hard to believe. I would really like to see official census data if this is a large-scale event or if it's only happening within my own environment.

    Also, I know absolutely no one who bought a second account to play inside Abyssea, and, in fact, a majority of people with two accounts I know have quit.

    Edit:
    About inmates running the asylum, this place was made specifically for people to share their opinions with SE. While quite a large amount of suggestions are objectively stupid, I'm fairly certain the development team is smart enough to filter those out. Others are matters of opinion and should be regarded as such. And for that, this official forum is just the right place, because, as I mentioned before, it contains players from every part of the game, low end, high end, and everything within that spectrum.
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    This will not end well.

    Although I kind of like the sentiment of keeping my Atma, I don't know how much I would like more Abyssea.

    If they increased the challenge of future Abyssea type events I wouldn't mind though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    This will not end well.

    Although I kind of like the sentiment of keeping my Atma, I don't know how much I would like more Abyssea.

    If they increased the challenge of future Abyssea type events I wouldn't mind though.
    If you think Abyssea is not challenging try going in with no cruor or atma buffs. I agree with topic creator. I would love if the game continued down the Abyssea path. I to have two accounts because of Abyssea.
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    I agree. I'd like to see more Abyssea zones, if not only to relieve congestion in current Heroes ones. And I think it would be fun to see what hellholes they could make out of the jungle zones or some of the toau zones.

    Alas, i think some of the more vocal nuts on this forum have given the devs the idea that Abyssea isn't what we want. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

    Horrible idea to let the inmates run the asylum but meh, what can you do, the genie's out of the bottle now.
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