The RolanMart

Rolanmart is fine the way it is, I honestly don't see anything wrong with it.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

People should just use the Chocobo Circuit. Every mule can access it, and every nation in the game can zone there. Not like that location is being used for anything else these days.

Just need to add a Nomad Moogle and dbox NPC.

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Also use the unused counters for AH and one of those men that give you BCNM orbs. I would also argue for an Outpost Teleport guy that works regardless your allegiance.

Just dump the entire Chocobo rubbish so it's mostly empty from NPC's and it's the perfect zone.

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Originally Posted by Sapphire

I have a Star Sapphire I bazaar for max gil, but only when I'm actually selling something else. It's dorky and inv -1, but given my name it just makes me smile. :)

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Depends if you go afk and bazaar. If that's the case: when your items have been purchased by someone, you're still standing around with your bazaar icon up with NOTHING for sale.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Some people say they do it to prevent accidental dropping of items. It's such a hassle to do it that way that it makes a lot more sense to just store that stuff in your storage or mog safe or sack or satchel or locker where you can't directly throw stuff away either...

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Yeah, it used to be a valid reason before satchel and locker. Not that I mind if people run around the rest of the game with maxed out items in their bazaars, but when vanity interferes with my PJ shopping time...:mad:

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Honestly I'm finding that bazaaring is happening less and less because few items in the game sell for a high enough value to where the AH fees become a problem, and all that's left is currency and a handful of other non-AHable items.

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If you look, realy look, around 60% of the people in port jeuno alone are bazaars.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

If you look, realy look, around 60% of the people in port jeuno alone are bazaars.

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Not on Shiva. There are a few, mind you, but what bazaars we do have are all over jeuno (mainly lower/rulude), not just in port.

You wanna know something sad, I didn't even realize there was a zone for the circuit. I always saw the arch and just figured it was another window or something like the AH. Honestly after I got a decent speed Chocobo I never bother with the mess after that. If there a mostly unused zone there? Yeah I'd say move it in there.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Depends if you go afk and bazaar. If that's the case: when your items have been purchased by someone, you're still standing around with your bazaar icon up with NOTHING for sale.

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I'm on a laptop, I avoid afking as much as possible. I also rarely bazaar, heh. Pretty much every time whatever random non-npcable thing I have there gets purchased in front of me... even if it takes a while!

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Originally Posted by tyrantsyn

You wanna know something sad, I didn't even realize there was a zone for the circuit. I always saw the arch and just figured it was another window or something like the AH. Honestly after I got a decent speed Chocobo I never bother with the mess after that. If there a mostly unused zone there? Yeah I'd say move it in there.

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You've been missing out man. My chocobo is a beast once it gets red shells to take out the leaders in the race, banana peels to trip up the competition and lightning bolts to shrink everyone.

Rainbow Road, 150CC.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

You've been missing out man. My chocobo is a beast once it gets red shells to take out the leaders in the race, banana peels to trip up the competition and lightning bolts to shrink everyone.

Rainbow Road, 150CC.

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If only if it was like that, we'd probably spend more time doing it.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Not on Shiva. There are a few, mind you, but what bazaars we do have are all over jeuno (mainly lower/rulude), not just in port.

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Here they are so many that they are starting to leech over and conjest lower as well.

As was said before, this was a player-initiated method to avoid Jeuno tax, there's nothing SE can "bring back".

On Leviathan it's in Upper Jeuno atm, and I prefer it that way, both as a buyer as well as a seller. Takes less time travelling there and don't have to zone out and miss shouts/yells. The lag (yes, lag is actually the correct term, both for connection delay as well as hardware delay) is about the same, there's not many NPCs in Upper Jeuno in the area where most Bazaars are these days (and there's more NPCs outside now as well).

As for lagging the zone out for people passing through, what is there in Upper Jeuno that people need to do? The only problem I see with this is in Port Jeuno (and possibly Ru'Lude Gardens), but there's not nearly as many bazaars in either of these zones as people claim here. And even without any Bazaars Jeuno would be laggy as hell because people are lonely and love standing next to Horst and Joachim and pretend they're their friends.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

You've been missing out man. My chocobo is a beast once it gets red shells to take out the leaders in the race, banana peels to trip up the competition and lightning bolts to shrink everyone.

Rainbow Road, 150CC.

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This is what everyone really wanted deep inside. I mean, it sort of has items, but people wanted it to be like mario kart, not like the kentucky derby.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Not on Shiva. There are a few, mind you, but what bazaars we do have are all over jeuno (mainly lower/rulude), not just in port.

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Yes on Shiva. With 309 ppl in Port Jeuno, over one hundred ppl are afk bazaaring between the house and the entrance to the street, with the majority around the guide stone. And it's probably more because of the aforementioned 50 character limit, so there will be a ton I don't see. However, it is fun to argue against Tsuki for the sake of it so...

There are less in Upper Jeuno (120 ppl in zone, only about 50 bazaars). I always figures there were bazaars here so the would be picked up by the FFXI Bazaar website. Seems the chap running that site cancelled his subs back in Dec '11 though (shame :( ).

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Originally Posted by Arcon

As was said before, this was a player-initiated method to avoid Jeuno tax, there's nothing SE can "bring back".

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Sure they can.

How?
Well, don't you mention that yourself right there? o_o

Doesn't have to be Taxes though. It could be anything just to shoo people somewhere else.
As for me personally, I don't care much of them as I rarely even check them Bazaars so I wouldn't mind them not being in area I use (though I tend to prefer hanging around at Bastok).

They used to be at Sauromugue Champaign on Fenrir.
Haven't seen any there I think after the Taxes were removed, I think.
Not that I have checked for a while.

It would surely be nice if they still were in a place where the shouts or at least yells will be seen at. That said, I'd still prefer they'd be out of city areas since the game is made just so badly on that regard that issues arise from high number of player characters about. =/

They need to:
A) make the /yell function work in every city
B) make the chocobo circuit function like a hub (walk in from one city, walk out to another)
c) Add NPCs in the Circuit that function like an auction house, but deal only in currency, plates, alex, dice, mirrors etc.

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There are less in Upper Jeuno (120 ppl in zone, only about 50 bazaars).

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as a percentage, the number of bazaars is higher, and the number of people in that area that are actively browsing bazaars is also higher, because there are fewer other things to do in that area.

As covered earlier I wouldn't mind a dedicated purpose area (much preferable to an area with monsters in it- you can concievably kill bazaar people by dragging NMs over there), but we really already have the ideal area in the chocobo circuit because it can be accessed from every major city including aht urghan, and its currently a very low traffic area.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

You've been missing out man. My chocobo is a beast once it gets red shells to take out the leaders in the race, banana peels to trip up the competition and lightning bolts to shrink everyone.

Rainbow Road, 150CC.

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lol Now thats funny'

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I'd honestly rather them remove the tax on the chocobo circuit-

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Just because YOU dont race choco's, doesnt mean that other ppl dont.

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

Just because YOU dont race choco's, doesnt mean that other ppl dont.

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OK? I never said that nobody ever races chocobos. In fact, part of the idea of bazaaring in the chocobo circuit is that the chocobo circuit gets more exposure.

The central section and all the currently empty rooms would be great for trade.

They ever implement this? Or just something that slipped into the background again

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

They ever implement this? Or just something that slipped into the background again

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If they would make it possible to travel from city to city by using the circuit, it would be fantastic for bazaar etc.. Not only that, but the added traffic might actually get a few more people to try racing.

Sadly, I think less and less people are playing, so the need to alleviate congestion has sort of waned.

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Originally Posted by Haldarn

There are less in Upper Jeuno (120 ppl in zone, only about 50 bazaars). I always figures there were bazaars here so the would be picked up by the FFXI Bazaar website. Seems the chap running that site cancelled his subs back in Dec '11 though (shame :( ).

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GuildWork does the bazaar database automatically for FFXIAH now. As long as someone checking your bazaar has GuildWork running, your current location and Bazaar contents/pricing are updated on FFXIAH. It covers all servers that way. Dec. 2011 is when they implemented that feature, IIRC.

On Quetz, people go to shop in upper jeuno, they craft in lower jeuno, and form parties in port jeuno. Don't really notice congestion or lag in any of these zones.

Is there ever a thread that tahn doesn't try to argue? Rolanmart needs to come back. So hard to find people selling actual stuff in their bazaar. It's usually crap like flame geodes or lvl 10 gear. So annoiying.

/sh hey dudes come check out my bazaar with a totally reasonable price on this item scaevola wants, conveniently located right over here at the guide stone, right next to literally 80 other people

I like the idea of a non-player bazaar system so I don't have to keep my computer running ffxi 24/7.
Oh and an increase in AH cap.

I'm thinking:

where? the mog house
how?

player with AH in mog house (logged in/out)
must select "Open Bazaar" option which locks him in the mog house til he closes it
searching player talks to moogle to warp him to "The Bazaar"
I'm thinking a zone just full of npc's with the player's names
zone: Fort Karugo-Narugo (there's unused teleports there. just lock the outside town part of the zone off)

This was a completely random thought i had while reading the thread.

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Originally Posted by scaevola

conveniently located right over here at the guide stone, right next to literally 80 other people

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/ta dudesname

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Originally Posted by Chimerawizard

I like the idea of a non-player bazaar system so I don't have to keep my computer running ffxi 24/7.

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We can call the system "Market Wards!"

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Originally Posted by Arcon

And even without any Bazaars Jeuno would be laggy as hell because people are lonely and love standing next to Horst and Joachim and pretend they're their friends.

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This made me laugh. Sure seems that way :D

On subject, I liked Rolanmart when it was around. It seemed pretty easy to browse all the Bazaars and it did seem less laggy to me o.O. I have to admit though, that with /yell now, it's nice to still be in Jeuno in case something interesting pops up.

It's was not less laggy, and sure as hell was NOT easy to browse the 32894 bazaars all clumped in one spot. Leaving the city to brows bazaars was stupid, removing the tax and bringing people inside was the best thing ever to happen to Jeuno.

As a former Bismarck resident, I can confirm their fascination with terrible ideas.

Bumping this thread.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It's was not less laggy, and sure as hell was NOT easy to browse the 32894 bazaars all clumped in one spot. Leaving the city to brows bazaars was stupid, removing the tax and bringing people inside was the best thing ever to happen to Jeuno.

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Having 100+ Bazaars clumped up at Mog House/Guide Stone in Port/Lower/Upper Jeuno is no better than the RolanMart was. Heck, the market was better in my view since the bazaars were more spread out.

I vote for taxes to be reimplemented.

Honestly they should just add a zone, count it as part of Jeuno for /yell reasons, and make it an open area for people to shop from other players. It could be a zone just for that reason alone, at most add a few warp NPCs and a hope point. This would give everyone on every server an official shop zone in Jeuno, while shopping you can see yells from Jeuno thus missing out on nothing and allowing a central, out of the way place, where people can go. With that done, no area in Jeuno would be lagged thanks to hoards of afk players, bazaars would be easier to find, and I think the problem would be completely solved.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Honestly they should just add a zone, count it as part of Jeuno for /yell reasons, and make it an open area for people to shop from other players. It could be a zone just for that reason alone, at most add a few warp NPCs and a hope point. This would give everyone on every server an official shop zone in Jeuno, while shopping you can see yells from Jeuno thus missing out on nothing and allowing a central, out of the way place, where people can go. With that done, no area in Jeuno would be lagged thanks to hoards of afk players, bazaars would be easier to find, and I think the problem would be completely solved.

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Make AH stalls usable in Chocobo Circuit, add it to /yell, add DBox NPC. Bam. New bazaar zone accessible from all nations.

Yeah I was just meaning a zone used for nothing else, remember, SE probably thinks those zones are meaningful and used by many people.

I would be surprised to see SE make a zone dedicated to bazaarers. Not that it's a bad idea in anyway, just realistically thinking taxes being reimplemented should be a 5 minute task for them.

If they were to do a dedicated zone for it, they may as well rip off the market wards idea from XIV so you don't have to keep a mule logged in 24/7 to act as your shopkeep.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

If they were to do a dedicated zone for it, they may as well rip off the market wards idea from XIV so you don't have to keep a mule logged in 24/7 to act as your shopkeep.

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Never played it, wouldn't know.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

If they were to do a dedicated zone for it, they may as well rip off the market wards idea from XIV so you don't have to keep a mule logged in 24/7 to act as your shopkeep.

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This would be pretty awesome.

Alha, while I understand you may not have liked the "inconvienience" of zoning out to rolanberry or wherever your bazaars were(I quit reading your posts cause you're always bellyaching about something) jueno having too many people to load all the bazaars is a problem sometimes. Just because you don't like what some people (obviously a majority) doesn't make it wrong. Perhaps stating your opinion such as "I don't like rolan/whateverzonemarts because x" not "no that's stupid, whoever liked this is an idiot rabblerabble" perhaps then more people would respect your opinion then if you quit blethering so much.

Anyway I'm all for tax coming back in jueno to filter out the mules, back during rolanmart days jueno wasn't as laggy with the mules outside and finding items to purchase from people was simple. Most bazaars on servers I hear are in port jueno from the guide stone all the way out towards Joachim, that's a wee bit lame. On my server specifically a chunk of particular ppl bazaar at the guide stone and all thru pj, which a chunk in rulude gardens. Not a big deal til you're practically swimming thru lagmules to get to the magian moogle, or anything in port related. Jueno tax plz.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

While we do have some bazaars there, most of ours have historically been in upper jeuno. These days there are quite a few in ru'lude since some people have made that their home area.

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I'm on shiva.. and the use of bazaars in upper has diminished greatly... and I'll see maybe 10 bazaars in ru lude at any given time. 90% still in PJ...