Artifact Armor 4 idea

I'd deffinatly say static. I hate the random system and don't think it's a fare way to reward people at all. Having a person get a great augment after 1 try while you never get it after 50+ tries is so disheartening.

Also, if making them static means it'll take longer to get I don't think it's a bad thing. I'm getting a bit bored of the game right now and everything can be got fast and that's with almost no effort. Having something to focus on that might take a while and give you a guarenteed reward would be great! So yeah, static deffinatly.

Another vote for static stats. While higher stats are nice, I had my fill random stats while taking 650+ attempts to get a facio bliault with 14% cure potency.

The track record for "powerful stats" like 1-6 ice resist on battle trophy gear or augments from fields of valor that only lowered stats doesn't lend much confidence to random stats, either.

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

[SIZE="7"]STATIC GOOD! GOOD![/SIZE]

[SIZE="7"]RANDOM BAD! BAD![/SIZE]

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I'm confused. Where did you stand on this issue? I kinda think what you mean is... no, wait, I'm confused. Did you want Random? :confused:

Static please!

I find the current sky system very tiresome.

I still require some gear via the base abjuration. I wouldn't use it for tatters. I know sky gods are easy to get done now, but I still find the process quite tiresome to only have a chance at good augments, which statistically, some people never get.

There's no good reason to make these Augments random anymore.

Static all the way.

Neither.

10char

What a constructive post.

Static please. There is nothing more frustrating that clicking 100 times the same combination of keys and arrow to scroll down a whole list of stuff and end up with nothing interesting.
or if random make the randomness limited so a certain degree - having 3/4 stats completely random is making stuff even more frustrating for the combination are endless.

please reconsider the synergy option. i know you want to test out synergy on us and that makes sense but the market is already suffering enough from the total lack of material and crafters. adding "mandatory" craft to skill might be counter-productive in the end since not everybody knows a crafter or have access to the funds needed to craft and skill.

Random. If they do "static" the augments will be gimp and not worth the effort and we won't have any thing to do. Random means some people that want to farm rare gear for their preferred job will have something to work on.

I'd like an exemple of static/random too but let me guess :

duelist chapeau static : MP+5 HP+5 MND+2 INT+2
duelist chapeau random : one of Mac +1~5 MND 1~5 INT +2~5

Dynamis gear is unlikely to become good anyway so I don't see the point of putting static stats to them.

Static Stats. But seriously... Why Relic +2.. :\ I honestly like the Empyrean armor in terms of looks.. So if you are making Relic +2 at least suggest Empyrean +3 maybe at 99...

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

What a constructive post.

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Ok how about this:

Static, but not synergy.

Magians maybe?

I would definitely take a Magian upgrade of current armor. In fact, that's what the vast majority of the NA playerbase was hoping for when TotM was released in the first place =/. To hell with random synergy augments.

I wouldn't mind random except the system they use for it now there is a scale of usefulness from 0-10 and most augments get less than 2. Get that up to at least 5 or go with static.

Would we be augmenting the normal relic? or the relic+1? I never bothered with relic +1 because the stats were never worth the currency.

how can u specialize if u dont know what u will get? -_-

having a ToM for every piece of gear letting u choose what to put on what piece, is specializing

Let me rephrase this. What's better ? Killing Dragua 100 times exactly to get the WoE weapon or giving dragua 1/100 drop rate on verethragna ?

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Would we be augmenting the normal relic? or the relic+1? I never bothered with relic +1 because the stats were never worth the currency.

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I have a feeling it is the latter and I am in the same boat as well. I hope a major overhaul of the COP Dynamis areas is also on the way. Considering that the real prize is the +2, I don't think it would be a bad thing if +1 pieces became much easier to obtain for solo/small group players.

And on topic, I vote for static as well. While it is a great feeling landing that amazing random augment, that feeling is easily overshadowed by the frustration of having spent countless hours getting Water Resist +7.

It would be more interesting if given the option to do one or the other perhaps in the manner of. The random stats are random but can be higher then the static one.

Let's say the static stat for enhance berserk in III, but when you try the random enhance route for berserk it can range from I-VI. In this manner the player can choose to take the safer route in which they know when they'll obtain their reward or perhaps they can take a chance and attempt to go for a random chance in hopes of obtaining a better result then the random stat.

Static please.

Static with numerous options of what to choose for each piece.

I don't want to see any monster specific, or time specific bonuses. 95% of evolith gear was garbage and should never have seen the light of day.

I'd like to see interesting stats like refresh +1, magic attack bonus +5, attack +20, enhances job ability, converts damage taken to mp +, additional effect: restores hp, tp, mp, str +15.

go big or go home.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Would we be augmenting the normal relic? or the relic+1? I never bothered with relic +1 because the stats were never worth the currency.

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they are talking about relic+2, so i suppose +1 must be acquired the old way.
dynamis revamp part 2 is probably arch cop dynamis, so acquiring currency and -1 item doesnt seem an issue

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Let me rephrase this. What's better ? Killing Dragua 100 times exactly to get the WoE weapon or giving dragua 1/100 drop rate on verethragna ?

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still i dont understand lol

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Originally Posted by Camate

・Will be able to store your equipment

With all the above in mind, please let us know which system you prefer!

In regards to items not being able to be stored once augmented
We’re currently weighing the following two possibilities:

1. Make it possible to send relic equipment and enhanced relic equipment via delivery system
2. Make the stats static

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Let me ask for clarification. Dev tem is considering asking players to not only juggle their AF items through porter moogle but also through 4x80 inventory slots and then inventory slots of their mule characters?
My inbox is already clogged with crafting materials from mules, returns from AH etc. My outbox is clogged with crafting materials and other junk I send to mules and with junk I send to friends, which they don't receipt, because their inbox is clogged and they go through it once a fortnight or a week.
You want me to remember which AF is on which mule? And then when I want to change job, drop my party, logout, login to mule, fetch AF from MH, run to AH, send out, log out, log in, send out AF from old job, clear inbox, receipt AF... Is the Dev team really considering something like this?

Why not consider this: drop PS2, introduce exclusive inventory slot (accessible from MH) that could hold all 100 pieces of AF1/AF1+1, then another for AF2/AF2+2, then another for AF3...

Not going to happen, so whatever you do, don't make me relog to mules just to change a job.

Static please.

(Because The Dev's historically have had a HORRIBLE grasp on the concept of "Random"...)

my vote is also for static. like many have already said, the random augment features in XI have been pretty bad, and it wouldn't be worth the frustration

Honestly I would want this gear to be situational and not full-time like several pieces of AF3+2 are. That being said, I think random would honestly be better in the long run.

However I've had quite enough of non-perfect stats on Genbu's Shield, Zenith Crown +1, etc, etc, and I HATE THE RANDOM POOL AUGMENTS WITH A PASSION, because it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get a perfectly augmented item. (In theory, N hands w/ +6 STR +4% Crit DMG and +x y Skill is possible, which would make them better than any piece in the game for the jobs that can use them (+14 STR, +5 DEX, +4% Crit DMG is better than pretty much, well, everything in every slot. Or I believe you can get up to 8 Attack, which could be better for jobs like THF).

SO, for the sake of sanity and my gil-wallet, please do static.

Static with options please...

and if all possible not though Synergy...............

The only thing random in this game needs to be /random command...nothing else!

Static static static! I love being able to store my gear, especially in the case of AF and Relic which I can't use on other jobs.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Let me rephrase this. What's better ? Killing Dragua 100 times exactly to get the WoE weapon or giving dragua 1/100 drop rate on verethragna ?

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There's a zero out of place here, it SHOULD read:

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What's better? Killing Voidwrought 10 times exactly to get the WoE weapon, or giving Gancanagh 1/1,000 (1/100,000 if you're good at your job) drop rate on Verethragna?

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The random-stat generator is a very cruel mistress. Your odds of getting good augments vary inversely with your skill. The better you are, the worse your odds are of getting worthwhile augments. I would rather work hard, overcome the most challenging obstacles, and KNOW what I'm working for climbing the highest mountains, than run aimlessly through the fields forever, HOPING to find something of value.

Edit: This poll isn't JUST about AF2+2 augments, but about sending a message to SE for ALL augment systems to come. NO MORE RANDOM-STAT GENERATION EVER AGAIN, PLEASE!

P.S: I'm re-voting for Static Augments, AGAIN!

Static stats, not synergy. We'll "repeat" whatever task it involves enough making items not only for ourselves, but friends. And since most relic gear is garbage, unless whatever suddenly makes them not, the process shouldn't be too mind-numbing. One advantage of static boosts, too, is that if it simply becomes a +2 item, a moogle slip can be made to hold all Relic+2s.

I don't exactly know when ppl stopped wanting to actually work for their good gear in this game but I hope it's random. More power for more work is just fine by me. Whatever gets the better stats {Yes, please.}.

Would prefer static, have seen too many people get boned over by random chance, and would rather it not happen to me as well <_<

Random augments are one of the worst things that ever happened to this game, so make Relic +2 static please. Random augments wouldn't be bad if it was a a very small pool of possibilities, but when there are 50,000 possible augments for one piece of gear then it isn't worth the time or effort that it takes to get one of the 5 or so that are actually worth a damn. Even if the random augments have a slight possibility of being better than static it really isn't worth the headache involved in trying to get that perfect one.

Or you could just not farm relic+2 saving yourself one inventory slot (the slip) if they indeed suck (which they will)

Static. Storage is a must at this point.

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Originally Posted by georgcantor316

I don't exactly know when ppl stopped wanting to actually work for their good gear in this game but I hope it's random. More power for more work is just fine by me. Whatever gets the better stats {Yes, please.}.

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And some people seek fun over work. Once you can consistently do X activity, odds are the "fun" will start to fade and it slowly devolves into annoying repetition. The whole random stat approach reminds of one of the most terrible aspects of Diablo II where you can spend hours upon hours farming bosses for a drop, and if you finally did get it and it's an item with variable stats, it wound up rolling the lowest combination possible. Economically, it becomes trash unless the item is truly that much better over alternatives for the slot, which was kinda rare.

I'm sure some pro MMO analyst will pop in and talk about gambling or the Skinner Box is what makes MMOs work, but humans are not rats and many of us try to play for more than just loot. Loot just so happens to have an affect on group morale, and the lows really should not outshine the highs when attempting to create a universally enjoyable environment. Those who are arguing for it purely from the ego perspective should not be listened to, as too often they're the ones who can sit down and play 12+ hours a day and maybe eventually see those max stat items, or worse, know of ways to cheat the system.

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Or you could just not farm relic+2 saving yourself one inventory slot (the slip) if they indeed suck (which they will)

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So, let's advocate the implementation of content nobody will do because the rewards suck? I guess it's been done before, but it shouldn't be a standard to strive for.

It they absolutely must use Synergy they can still make the static augments more potent; they can create a point system in Dynamis, which allows you to redeem points for synthesis materials for the augments. That way you work on getting the -1 (after they modify the CoP zones), the currency, and the points, in a single process.

More thoughts on Synergy please?

I dislike that idea......very much........

Static.

It should be able to be stored under a Porter Moogle slip.

It should be a Magian Trial.

My suggestion in this regard is to have a multi-trial setup.

For example:

For an example three part trial, as it is an example, difficulty isn't scaled properly:

Part 1 would involve getting a number between 1-10 Job Specific Testimonies depending on which equip you are upgrading.

Part 2 would involve fulfilling some objective relevant to the gear, like doing 10000 total damage to undead using banish spells while wearing the White Mage Relic Gloves, or doing 100 Blood Pact: Rage using the Summoner Relic Gloves, or curing 10000 damage with Regen for the Cleric's Briault.

Part 3 would be something along the lines of some challenge NM that you kill a sane amount of times, preferably once, for the trial, such as fighting Fenrir Prime again if your a Summoner, or a Voidwatch NM, or something that is fairly simple to have a clean and easy wrap up to the trail. Should absolutely not have any overlap with Empyrean weapon NMs.

Bonus: Require Job Specific Testimonies to have been consumed in a successful fight against Maat/counterparts for added challenge.

Hopefully the stats aren't just boosts of the current stats for every piece of gear. While this would work for certain pieces, like many of the Summoner's for example, some gear pieces are straight up terrible, and completely outclassed by AF3 in every way.

For the White Mage Relic gear in particular, with the exception of the body piece, most of it is pretty much terrible, and all of it is pretty much skip-able. Getting it to +2 should reverse that.

More importantly, we should also be able to +2 Artifact gear!

I'd like improved stats on the Artifact gear more then Relic for White Mage for example.

If you really want to make big stat boosts, but want to appease us with static stats, you could always make +2 the stats you get on the road to... +3! Could have +3 Artifact, Relic AND Empyrean if you really wanted to push gear that is out of reach for most people with absurd stat boosts.

I agree Magian Trial please not Synergy.

Votes for Magian Trail please?

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Yes I'm tired of synergy and tired of them attempting to make it work.