Make the Relic and Empyrean WSs Questable

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

pass tothis idea, giving every bandwagon war mnk and nin their respective ws in an already easymode ffxi would make for even worse players

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basically what tearv said, yea

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

pass tothis idea, giving every bandwagon war mnk and nin their respective ws in an already easymode ffxi would make for even worse players

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the aftermath is kinda what make the empyrean...this solves nothing...not that i'm an advocate of change.

You can easily get the NQ empyrean from WoE. It takes very little effort.

Meh fine it was just an idea I idea I had. Didn't expect everyone to be so hostile to the idea >_>.

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Originally Posted by Denabond

I don't see how giving Empy WS to everyone would destroy the WoE version. They are technically 4th on the dmg list behind Mythic. Or they can simply make it so you need to get WoE version to quest for the Empy WS.

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There's a lot of weapons that have better overall stats compared to WoE weapons. Compare Widowmaker to Maschu+2. If widowmaker could use Ukko's Fury, then Maschu+2 is obsolete.

Or in the case of the magical WS. If you could use Wildfire with a OA2-4 weapon, then that probably becomes the best gun in the game, since the damage of the weapon is irrelevant to the damage of the WS.

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Originally Posted by Denabond

Meh fine it was just an idea I idea I had. Didn't expect everyone to be so hostile to the idea >_>.

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well, we aren't being hostile. it's that just because someone has an idea, does not necessarily make it a good one.

I thought doing WoE for Emp weaponskill was easy enough.

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

well, we aren't being hostile. it's that just because someone has an idea, does not necessarily make it a good one.

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I am surprised that TearV is saying something that is actually TRUE

Why not have WoE Weapon or Empy weapon be the item you need to obtain and do the quest with to unlock Empy WS? Much like the Nyzul weapons needing to be obtained and then used to break latent.

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Originally Posted by Nvr

Why not have WoE Weapon or Empy weapon be the item you need to obtain and do the quest with to unlock Empy WS? Much like the Nyzul weapons needing to be obtained and then used to break latent.

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some of the empy ws are far too powerful to be in the hands of the dumb. smite, hi, ukkos, fudo come to mind.