Well I'm only saying if SE did remove TP loss upon switching weapons, people with Muliti-Hit weapons would need to be restricted. If that's the reason we have restriction to begin with. Maybe at the moment low-accuracy, low DMG weapon doesn't matter but I'm sure there are plenty of Accuracy gears out and more in the future that people with Kraken club could be stupid enough to use it at big events.Quote:
Originally Posted by detlef
Others were saying what would stop multi weapon people from raising TP only to switch over to another weapon if restriction was removed?
TP 300%
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08-17-2013, 05:39 AMDaemon
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08-17-2013, 05:55 AMdetlef
We'll see. There are no multi-hit weapons with item levels that I am aware of, so you'd be stuck macroing in something like Mercurial Sword, Kclub, Soboro... I dunno. Maybe that's worthwhile but I can't imagine it being that great.
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08-17-2013, 06:04 AMKriegsgottexactly reminds me on a Dyna run with 36+ people and i got the most attention because of my Kclub people were worried about TP spam this made me lol and cry insidie together poor bismarck server....Quote:
Originally Posted by detlef
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08-17-2013, 06:06 AMDaemonWell I'd lol too if it was Dyna... Crying right reading this...Quote:
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08-17-2013, 06:15 AMDaemonWhen I said Fast forward the fight. It doesn't mean just TP moves but also Spellcasting, abilities. I've seen friends use Kraken club on mobs that do more than the average Dyna monster. Unless SE changed it, this what I meant by putting the entire party at risk.Quote:
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08-17-2013, 06:32 AMdetlef
Are you suggesting that tp feed affects mob casting? And when you mention a monster's TP moves and abilities, what's the difference?
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08-17-2013, 06:35 AMDaemonNo I'm saying the speed of kraken club allowing you to hit monster more raises TP faster. But also the faster you are fighting a monster the quicker it will cast spells, use abilities. Unless SE changed it so monsters sit there and allow you to hit it as fast as you can without effecting how it will attack back?Quote:
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Edit: A noticeable difference can be seen when fighting a Voidwatch boss with 3 man setup VS 18 man setup. -
08-17-2013, 06:56 AMdetlef
Well okay, so you were talking about some obscure low-man situation. Yes, if you have like 1 DD on a mob, then you might notice a difference in TP move frequency depending on TP feed.
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08-17-2013, 08:44 AMFaeQueenCory
Daemon! Learn to use the multiquote!
lol
But in response to your question:
Outside of Abyssea........... why would you want to keep your TP?
DDs main the most potent weapon they have.
Mages aren't gaining TP so their switching their stat-sticks won't change anything...
And..... um.... PLD?
I just can't think of any situation, outside of trying to red-proc in Abyssea, where a weapon switch is something that is... well.. needed.
And even then.... it's more of a "well I don't have to worry about this joke scythe's 999 delay".... -
08-17-2013, 08:58 AMDaemonUh, Mythic Weaponskills would be used more often. I play many mage classes. At times I could have thrown in a WS with debuffs such as Magic Accuracy, Magic Attack, Magic defense down had I no reason to constantly change grips, Ammos, weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaeQueenCory
I said if SE released better debuff daggers with enfeebling effects like Weight down, Poison, Sleep, etc.
Then Theif would have a better role in party switching daggers attacking than be limited to SATA.