Aegis and Ochain after August update?

Oh Demon, I know the reply was @ Umichi. I was just providing some information on it.

I agree completely. Shield skill and *maybe* defense are all that either could need. However, if SE chose to keep other shields having higher defense than Aegischain, I'm all for that, even knowing the special role that a shield's defense has.

So nice when we agree! ^_^

I agree though, they aren't many items that outclass their uniqueness prolly nothing lol..

Please SE, comment on this. Ochain's stake is that it blocks often. I like that idea that it won't block the most. The best weapons still weren't always the best in every aspect, just that the total package was worth building it.

Until SE fixes PLD who gives a shit about Aegis/Ochain (yes I have both)

PLD isn't used for anything relevant. People bring PLDs to new fights, figure the fight out and replace the PLD with a DD. Its a safety net job with no real use.

I give a sh* because I enjoy PLD, but I know exactly what you mean.

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Originally Posted by Taint2

Until SE fixes PLD who gives a shit about Aegis/Ochain (yes I have both)

PLD isn't used for anything relevant. People bring PLDs to new fights, figure the fight out and replace the PLD with a DD. Its a safety net job with no real use.

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Haven't seen them replaced in wildskeeper reives yet.

So does this FINALLY mean more truly endgame viable shield options, or will one still need an A&O Club Membership Card to play PLD?

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Originally Posted by svengalis

Haven't seen them replaced in wildskeeper reives yet.

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They chiefly only work in wildskeeper reives because death in WK reives doesn't matter.

DD on boss know they're going to die either from absurd aoe, absurd tp moves, or when they finally do cap hate. WK reives have all been about throwing bodies at it.

<You> want me there to Flash Achuka, but not Tojil.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

So does this FINALLY mean more truly endgame viable shield options, or will one still need an A&O Club Membership Card to play PLD?

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In Aegis' case, Aegis is still king by and far for magic damage, even if it gains no shield skill. Aegischain PLDs don't expect Aegis to block.

I'm not sure how much influence skill has on Ochain, whether or not it has a minimum block value, etc, so it's tough to say.