A Possible Nyzul Uncharted Fix

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Originally Posted by sweetidealism

I suppose that could work, but that's not the approach I'd like to see.

Personally, I feel a much better option would be to make it so that as soon as you complete a floor's objective, you should automatically jump ??? floors. This would make it so no one has to stand around staring at the lamp bored out of their mind waiting to manually jump-- instead they could actually participate! I think having a 6th person being able to actually run around and help out would not only make it a little easier to clear floors faster, it would also make the event far more enjoyable.

EDIT: I suppose they could always do both, though.

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Quite frankly, there isn't much reason why both couldn't be implemented. I must agree with you anyway though.

It's not supposed to be "more accessible." It was made to be trophy gear for those who complete the challenge and the event has been gimped down enough times as it is. If you can't beat it after a few tries, you're simply not yet at the level you need to be to attempt this event.

It can be beaten without third party tools as is. Not consistently, but that was never it's intention. Also you have the option to shoot for 80x5 for the same result. I think your idea, while having a guaranteed piece at the end of that trek, will ultimately take longer than what's already in place.

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Originally Posted by Miiyo

It's not supposed to be "more accessible." It was made to be trophy gear for those who complete the challenge and the event has been gimped down enough times as it is. If you can't beat it after a few tries, you're simply not yet at the level you need to be to attempt this event.

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If by "challenge" you mean pure dumb luck than sure it is challenging. My group was easily clearing 20 floors a run, pre update, which in itself should be enough to get 100 but we ended up having to cap it at 80 because of our horrible luck on floor jumps. Post update we have seen 80 once...

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Originally Posted by Helyos

It can be beaten without third party tools as is. Not consistently, but that was never it's intention. Also you have the option to shoot for 80x5 for the same result. I think your idea, while having a guaranteed piece at the end of that trek, will ultimately take longer than what's already in place.

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Truly spoken by two people who have not done the content since the update. Both of these posts would have been valid before the update but that is not the case now. I suggest you two take a few tags and do some runs and come back with some results. I bet you will change your minds on how the event has been "gimped".

Fact is the only people that will say it's not broken are those who are already done with the content. Grats on your 15/15 and all but some people are not so lucky and the update really broke this event even more.

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Originally Posted by Helyos

It can be beaten without third party tools as is. Not consistently, but that was never it's intention. Also you have the option to shoot for 80x5 for the same result. I think your idea, while having a guaranteed piece at the end of that trek, will ultimately take longer than what's already in place.

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That's kinda the point. This is a longer safer route in which time investment has a higher chance to come back successful. That's why I think making NNI have these options for how you wish do it is a good idea. That way, there will be something for those who dislike subjecting themselves to sheer luck as well as being restricted by a very limited job spectrum.

People who had trouble clearing the event before and still do now due to job availability and the aftermath of the Embrava adjustments should still get a chance now. As I said in the strategy thread, that gear wasn't limited edition. It isn't the tidal talisman.

What you want is basically called doing floor 80s as it is now. You take 5 runs to get one piece and getting to floor 80 is really easy.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

What you want is basically called doing floor 80s as it is now. You take 5 runs to get one piece and getting to floor 80 is really easy.

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According to the people above you, I'm afraid it's still the same luck based principles, which can either make the event a breeze or extremely unforgiving.

I'm calling for a mode in which luck does not decide your fate.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Truly spoken by two people who have not done the content since the update. Both of these posts would have been valid before the update but that is not the case now. I suggest you two take a few tags and do some runs and come back with some results. I bet you will change your minds on how the event has been "gimped".

Fact is the only people that will say it's not broken are those who are already done with the content. Grats on your 15/15 and all but some people are not so lucky and the update really broke this event even more.

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Buddy. Read my post. I said 'as is' as in as it currently is.

I'm actually organizing runs with my LS. We have a pretty diverse group: PLD COR BRD SAM DRG SCH. It's also a group that's pretty viable and solid for taking on a lot of content, so I consider it the archetypical "any group". I'll report back on how it all goes and bring some screenshots if we make it to 80.

You should be able to get floor 100 most of the time with a proper setup. Don't know what your bringing now, but it must not be working. So far my group has done 2 WARs, a MNK and a SAM or DRK for DDs. Then we have a SCH/RDM to run after them giving Phalanx and Regen V. Last and most important is BRD/SMN. Whenever they can the BRD should pop Troubadour/Nightingale double Marches and summon Garuda for Hastega. Chocobo Mazurak everyone on lamp floors.

With this setup it's a pretty easy win. I even managed to hit floor 100 with a gimp SCH and a THF without an Empyrian or Relic as a DD. The triple haste you get from the BRD should keep you alive as things will die so fast you'll barely take damage. I'd say this setup is even better than back when you had SCHs use Embrava.