Change the Atma "Atma of the Razed Ruins" to better aid all jobs!

So instead of my DRG only getting 30% bonus damage when critical hitting, I get 30% damage bonus no matter what. It's like we've solved the problem of 20 not equaling 50 by adding 30 to both!

Hmmm crit dmg+ caps at +100%, is it possible to hit this cap without the 30% from razed ruins? if so you would have an even bigger problem where certain jobs cap crit dmg anyway and get the extra 30% phys dmg on top of that.

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Originally Posted by Jar

I Don't think that this atma is very... how to say it.. "Fair". It supports a small amount of jobs much more than others and if it doesn't help you you're going to be much weaker than the other people around you just because of what this atma does.

I don't think removing it is smart because it is fun to do such awesome damage and that's the point of abyssea, but I vote "Tweaking" it a little would be greatly appreciated.

At this point it adds DEX: Superior(+50), Critical Hit Rate: Superior (+30%), Critical Hit Damage: Major (+30%)

i say to even things up it should be more like DEX: Superior(+50), Critical Hit Rate: Superior (+30%), Physical Damage: Major (+30%)

adding this to make it boost not Critical-hit weaponskilling jobs would be simply amazing.

I know this doesn't fit what you where going with on this atma (OMG CRITICALS BUFFS) but this is would be MUCH MUCH more balanced.

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Really? Out of all the things we can tweek in the game, this is such a non-issue.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Hmmm crit dmg+ caps at +100%, is it possible to hit this cap without the 30% from razed ruins? if so you would have an even bigger problem where certain jobs cap crit dmg anyway and get the extra 30% phys dmg on top of that.

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I'm fairly certain 200% is the overall Damage Dealt cap, including critical hit damage boosts.

changing crit hit +30% to Phys. Damage +30% could be too overpowering for it.

You'd more or less still have the same mod to crit. damage in the long run as you would be giving a flat 30% boost to all physical damage. On top of that, you're increasing base physical damage across the board by 30%--so it applies to your non-crit WS as well as your normal hits to build TP.

It could also remove the need for another atma you might be using to increase your base damage, freeing you up to go extend your damage even further or gaining more utility that you otherwise may not be able to do currently.

long story short... don't think it's gonna happen.

The atma not the problem SE not adding a decent crit WS to jobs don't have one. Really who going to deny you a spot in a exp party if you don't have one. NMs are not about all out damage. So either way doesn't make one bit of differance.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

I'm fairly certain 200% is the overall Damage Dealt cap, including critical hit damage boosts.

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You got a link to some testing?

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Originally Posted by Arcon

I'm fairly certain 200% is the overall Damage Dealt cap, including critical hit damage boosts.

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You do mean not counting things like Relic/Empyrean/Mythic Aftermath and Set bonuses from things like THF/WAR/etc?

Cause I know i've seen SS of people doing like 6k+ SA's with Set bonus + Aftermath proc which is easily 600% normal.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

You do mean not counting things like Relic/Empyrean/Mythic Aftermath and Set bonuses from things like THF/WAR/etc?

Cause I know i've seen SS of people doing like 6k+ SA's with Set bonus + Aftermath proc which is easily 600% normal.

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ive done crits on drk with after math and set proc doing 3500+ thats well over 200% too

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Originally Posted by Raksha

You got a link to some testing?

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No.

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You do mean not counting things like Relic/Empyrean/Mythic Aftermath and Set bonuses from things like THF/WAR/etc?

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Yes, those are all "special" damage boosts and ignore the Damage Dealt cap, just like Sentinel, Fan Dance and Invincible are special damage mitigation and ignore the Damage Taken cap. I shouldn't have said "overall", I just meant from normal direct damage increasing sources. Some like Critical Attack Bonus, Critical Hit Damage, Weapon Skill Damage, etc.