Availability of HMPs, Riftcinders, Riftdross

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Originally Posted by dasva

voiddust is basically non-existant

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Every time I try to sell voiddust it gets sent back. Doesn't help that people don't want to pay fair value for it.

If folks want to encourage people to put voiddust on the market they have to be willing to pay a price that makes it worthwhile to farm it. I like doing campaign and I used to do it for fun for awhile there... but sometimes you want to spend your time productively too... and right now campaign is a very low payoff even selling dust.

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Originally Posted by Olor

Every time I try to sell voiddust it gets sent back. Doesn't help that people don't want to pay fair value for it.

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The problem is the said "Fair value", no one will pay those prices as they're not that desperate for it. I mean, 100k a stack isn't terrible..but if you're trying to sell over that, it simply won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Catmato

With Medal of Altana, you can earn 4500 Allied Notes per campaign battle evaluation. It's stupidly easy to amass a large number of notes.

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Still end up spending more time farming stones than actually doing vw... which is already a fairly time/gil inefficient event as is except during campaigns

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Originally Posted by Olor

Every time I try to sell voiddust it gets sent back. Doesn't help that people don't want to pay fair value for it.

If folks want to encourage people to put voiddust on the market they have to be willing to pay a price that makes it worthwhile to farm it. I like doing campaign and I used to do it for fun for awhile there... but sometimes you want to spend your time productively too... and right now campaign is a very low payoff even selling dust.

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Kind of goes hand in hand with why farm it yourself. The "fair value" of it should somewhat be based on the time it takes to get it. So if it isn't profitable to farm up the dust yourself it probably wont be profitable to buy it at a value based on what it took to get it. It was pretty good back in the day because people were just cashing in points from things they were already doing for other reasons so it wasn't priced as the main goal of their time. Basically adds into everything.

Like right now doing morta can do a batch and run back in about half an hour so like 12 an hour. Based on droprates from ffxidb should get 1.5 hmp, .45 cinder, .2 dross. Based on prices on my server that would be about 750k an hour which is already pretty meh gil per hour but then if you subtract 100k out of that to buy stones it gets even worse especially if you get those gross no cinder runs and end up barely doing more than break even.

Another part is I think so many people are used to seeing none on that they don't bother checking. There is also the whole these fights take so much longer if not campaign and aren't proccing so people either save stones for them or the gil/hr doing these drops to like 200k/hr and then they REALLY don't want to spend gil just for the chance to make peanuts when they can just do a quick salvage run for a lot more

Oh I totally agree I don't blame people for not buying since voidwatch itself is so out of whack on a reward ratio basis. I think that devs should at the very least cut the cost of voidstones for points in half, if prices stayed the same then it might actually be worth farming them at that point. Now it's just incidental. If I do some campaign and have some extra currency maybe I will throw some up but at this point I don't feel any need to do so since it's not worth my time.

Also a lot of people don't realize how much this game relied on casuals farming not very excellent content to make everything work. As the population declines a lot of goals just get harder and harder to meet.

Anyway, folks on Asura, I have lots of stones and like to voidwatch so hit me up if you see me.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

The problem is the said "Fair value", no one will pay those prices as they're not that desperate for it. I mean, 100k a stack isn't terrible..but if you're trying to sell over that, it simply won't happen.

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mmm has been awhile since I tried to sell but pretty sure people wanted for less than that. Anyway at 100K a stack even it's not worth the time spent doing campaign etc unless you are getting something else out of it.

Olor, this is unrelated to the topic but--I've seen you post in several places and wanted to comment that I love your sig-graphic.

Thanks! It was made by someone on the forums... mmm kingfury was their name. I don't think they play XI anymore though. Too bad. They are very talented, a number of folks have sigs made by him. Karbuncle for example also had their sig made by him. Kind of makes me sad since I haven't played BST since they gimped it up. Now just playing BLU and THF (pretty much dyna only) and leveling random stuff... tbh I don't play much anymore... but I keep subbing cause the nostalgia is strong.

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Originally Posted by Olor

Thanks! It was made by someone on the forums... mmm kingfury was their name. I don't think they play XI anymore though. Too bad. They are very talented, a number of folks have sigs made by him. Karbuncle for example also had their sig made by him.

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Yeah it was very reminiscient of Karbuncle's so I thought there was a common artist.

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Originally Posted by Olor

Thanks! It was made by someone on the forums... mmm kingfury was their name. I don't think they play XI anymore though. Too bad. They are very talented, a number of folks have sigs made by him. Karbuncle for example also had their sig made by him. Kind of makes me sad since I haven't played BST since they gimped it up. Now just playing BLU and THF (pretty much dyna only) and leveling random stuff... tbh I don't play much anymore... but I keep subbing cause the nostalgia is strong.

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Pretty sure he still plays, unless that's another Kingfury I'm seeing around. Probably just doesn't draw portraits for people anymore. Which is understandable, the list of people wanting one from him is like a mile long. It must get tiring.

You know, maybe the solution is that a single void dust should fill you up rather than give you one voidstone. I think this would be enough to create more demand for void dust while also alleviating some of the common annoyances like having to buy 6 void dust at a time having to trade them in one by one.

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Originally Posted by detlef

You know, maybe the solution is that a single void dust should fill you up rather than give you one voidstone. I think this would be enough to create more demand for void dust while also alleviating some of the common annoyances like having to buy 6 void dust at a time having to trade them in one by one.

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That sounds pretty good. Also gives more incentive to get Frontier Periapts.