Can we have an update on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

Dude MGS does not have more then FFXI srsly do u own the game? do u go on there and see how many ppl are on? do u Srsly do you do ANYTHING BESIDES COMPLAIN BOUT something u dont know? really? metal gear solid 4 doesnt have anywhere near the numbers off FFXI.... FFXI servers are much larger and take more power to run then metal gear solids so PUT A SOCK IN IT ALREADY

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

EXACT number is 200,880. So you are wrong again. When i come back I will provide you with the link for the MGS online playerbase.

Current FFXI ACTIVE Players link.
http://www.ffxiah.com/database

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[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] ill be sure there's more then 200k playin u cant go by what a *** FFxiah.com go by.... secondly..... They are not gonna elimnate game is off to concserve power [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

hmm how accurate is that list btw?

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Originally Posted by Lordskoll

SNES9X server population = 3


I lied it is only 2 would like 4 to play super bomberman

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hahahahahhah

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] ill be sure there's more then 200k playin u cant go by what a *** FFxiah.com go by.... moron secondly..... They are not gonna elimnate game is off to concserve power [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

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best post ever, I hope he is english

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

Dude MGS does not have more then FFXI srsly do u own the game? do u go on there and see how many ppl are on? do u Srsly do you do ANYTHING BESIDES COMPLAIN BOUT something u dont know? really? metal gear solid 4 doesnt have anywhere near the numbers off FFXI.... FFXI servers are much larger and take more power to run then metal gear solids so PUT A SOCK IN IT ALREADY

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Last count I had which was just month ago FFXI had just under 600k player base and thats not counting people with double accounts and as far as I can tell MSG is just under 200k so don't no where tour getting numbers from but there either exaggerated or just wrong. My numbers could be off too but I'm sure not by that much.

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] ill be sure there's more then 200k playin u cant go by what a *** FFxiah.com go by.... moron secondly..... They are not gonna elimnate game is off to concserve power [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

Stuff

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Such an obnoxious post. SE can scale down the FFXI team / resources as players move on; thus it can remain profitable with only 100K, or even 50K people playing. Do some research.

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Originally Posted by Chiibi

hmm how accurate is that list btw?

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NO very accuracte Chii ill def put that to point cause
1. if MGS was that big They would blow MW1/2 out of the water in sales n they dont
2. MGS is jus a small little thing but hey he wants to prove his ego so jus let him its fun watchin noobs he's prolly a lvl 7 war who cant beat a orc

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NO very accuracte Chii ill def put that to point cause
1. if MGS was that big They would blow MW1/2 out of the water in sales n they dont
2. MGS is jus a small little thing but hey he wants to prove his ego so jus let him its fun watchin noobs he's prolly a lvl 7 war who cant beat a orc

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You've got to learn to survive a defeat. That's when you develop character.

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Originally Posted by Arconis

Last count I had which was just month ago FFXI had just under 600k player base and thats not counting people with double accounts and as far as I can tell MSG is just under 200k so don't no where tour getting numbers from but there either exaggerated or just wrong. My numbers could be off too but I'm sure not by that much.

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dude i know im not listenin to what this nubcakes has to say cause he's absolutely wrong with everything he is saying MGS story line mad the game of the year not the online play.... right now Modern warfare 1/2 has more then anyone on them even FFXI but hey im not gonna argue with someone when i own all 4 games MW 1/2 MGS and FFXI

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

Such an obnoxious post. SE can scale down the FFXI team / resources as players move on; thus it can remain profitable with only 100K, or even 50K people playing. Do some research.

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Exactly they could run FFXI with one server and be profitable

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Originally Posted by RichardNixon

You've got to learn to survive a defeat. That's when you develop character.

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i can survive a defeat and still stand tall swinging my masamune Fudoin stuff :D

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

EXACT number is 200,880.

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That's not exact in the slightest. This number only includes people who have used the Auction House in the past 30 days. Going by FFXIAH, half my Linkshell are inactive - when they certainly aren't.

Less using unofficial data to try state something authorative. It's just not working for you.

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

dude i know im not listenin to what this nubcakes has to say cause he's absolutely wrong with everything he is saying MGS story line mad the game of the year not the online play.... right now Modern warfare 1/2 has more then anyone on them even FFXI but hey im not gonna argue with someone when i own all 4 games MW 1/2 MGS and FFXI

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lol same here but I only play FFXI nowadays can't seem to get into other games there not new anymore lol

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

dude i know im not listenin to what this nubcakes has to say cause he's absolutely wrong with everything he is saying MGS story line mad the game of the year not the online play.... right now Modern warfare 1/2 has more then anyone on them even FFXI but hey im not gonna argue with someone when i own all 4 games MW 1/2 MGS and FFXI

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I don't think a woman should be in any Linkshell. I mean, I really don't. The reason why is mainly because they are emotional. And stupid.

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

That's not exact in the slightest. This number only includes people who have used the Auction House in the past 30 days. Going by FFXIAH, half my Linkshell are inactive - when they certainly aren't.

Less using unofficial data to try state something authorative. It's just not working for you.

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WAIT FOR IT.......................................................................... NIGHT i got something to say...... HERE WE GO u ready for it gimme the i wanna i wanna talk


YOU JUS GOT BURNED

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

EXACT number is 200,880. So you are wrong again. When i come back I will provide you with the link for the MGS online playerbase.

Current FFXI ACTIVE Players link.
http://www.ffxiah.com/database

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FFXIAH is by no means accurate. It has my information from over 2 years ago (last scanned 32 months ago)--yet, I sold stuff on March 12, 2011.

Might want to confirm the data elsewhere, just saying.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

Unfortunately, these things have to be built near large bodies of water, as that water is used as a cooling medium. Look up the history of Nuclear reactors, and you will see the pattern. Granted, their may have been better sites and what not, but that is kind of mute when you are talking about Japan...topography and industry may not have allowed a viable site on the western side.

Raist

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Hmm ....The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station is a nuclear power plant located in Wintersburg, Arizona,[1] about 45 miles (80 km) west of central Phoenix. It is the largest nuclear generation facility in the United States, averaging over 3.2 gigawatts (GW) of electrical power production in 2003[2] to serve approximately 4 million people. Arizona Public Service (APS) owns 29.1% of the station and operates the facility. Other owners include Salt River Project (17.5%), El Paso Electric Co. (15.8%), Southern California Edison (15.8%), PNM Resources (10.2%), Southern California Public Power Authority (5.9%), and the Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power (5.7%).[3]
Located in the Arizona desert, Palo Verde is the only nuclear generating facility in the world that is not situated adjacent to a large body of above-ground water. The facility evaporates water from the treated sewage of several nearby municipalities to meet its cooling needs.

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

That's not exact in the slightest. This number only includes people who have used the Auction House in the past 30 days. Going by FFXIAH, half my Linkshell are inactive - when they certainly aren't.

Less using unofficial data to try state something authorative. It's just not working for you.

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Not only that But not all servers are being parsed on regular bases anymore so numbers from FFXIAH are not exactly accurate.

well ladies gents and Nub ::::COUGH:::: night
love to stay n chat but gotta head to work ill come check out how bad yall burned Night with ur number tonight

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

well ladies gents and Nub ::::COUGH:::: night
love to stay n chat but gotta head to work ill come check out how bad yall burned Night with ur number tonight

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LMAO Goodnight Kraatos have good one

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Nightdagger whining skill goes up 0.4 points

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LMAO N00b skill goes up 0.9 points

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Originally Posted by Arconis

LMAO N00b skill goes up 0.9 points

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Finishing second in the Olympics gets you silver. Finishing second in forums gets you nowhere.

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Originally Posted by Bigtop

Hmm ....The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station is a nuclear power plant located in Wintersburg, Arizona,[1] about 45 miles (80 km) west of central Phoenix. It is the largest nuclear generation facility in the United States, averaging over 3.2 gigawatts (GW) of electrical power production in 2003[2] to serve approximately 4 million people. Arizona Public Service (APS) owns 29.1% of the station and operates the facility. Other owners include Salt River Project (17.5%), El Paso Electric Co. (15.8%), Southern California Edison (15.8%), PNM Resources (10.2%), Southern California Public Power Authority (5.9%), and the Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power (5.7%).[3]
Located in the Arizona desert, Palo Verde is the only nuclear generating facility in the world that is not situated adjacent to a large body of above-ground water. The facility evaporates water from the treated sewage of several nearby municipalities to meet its cooling needs.

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I stand corrected. There are always exceptions to the norm.

But you have to admit, that is still a small portion of the whole (more than 400 worldwide). It is a fact they all have to access to reasonable amount of coolant medium, which in most all cases is near a large body of water, or at least with reasonable access too it. The bigger point of that portion of that debate (and that post) was about the site they choose for Japan. Take a GOOOOOD look at Japan. Not just the fact it is in the middle of a gigantic body of water, but look at it's landforms, it's population and urban development over the years. They probably didn't have many options.

The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station ...must stink like sh-

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Originally Posted by RAIST

I stand corrected. There are always exceptions to the norm.

But you have to admit, that is still a small portion of the whole (more than 400 worldwide). It is a fact they all have to access to reasonable amount of coolant medium, which in most all cases is near a large body of water, or at least with reasonable access too it. The bigger point of that portion of that debate (and that post) was about the site they choose for Japan. Take a GOOOOOD look at Japan. Not just the fact it is in the middle of a gigantic body of water, but look at it's landforms, it's population and urban development over the years. They probably didn't have many options.

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True, wasn't meant as slam just minor fact update.

so any actual updates, or just guesses

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] ill be sure there's more then 200k playin u cant go by what a *** FFxiah.com go by.... moron secondly..... They are not gonna elimnate game is off to concserve power [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

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Now that's the pot calling the kettle black.

Current image of the playerbase:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4008/kalcanmithras.jpg

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Originally Posted by NightDagger

How do you know what they are running for servers compared to SE? no one knows this but you do? & MGS Online is a lot bigger then FFXI. Look it up, i could care less that you play it, but the facts tell the truth. Geez i love how you just sit on a frigging doughnut & you are now a doughnut maker.

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no but common sense can be used to determine that servers for an MMORPG and an online shooter....are two different things. SE uses more power, so they where asked to shut off, the others most likely don't even use an 1/8 of what SE does.

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Current image of the playerbase:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4008/kalcanmithras.jpg

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thats funny.....yet really creepy at the same time

Solutions are not the answer.

and about the MGS Online vs FFXI banter, just looked them up out of curiosity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Online
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XI

Granted, the articles are a bit dated, but there are some hard figures that prove a point that FFXI is likely a larger scled operation. MGSO had 1.3m subscribers in 2009. FFXI broke 2m in 2008. The article further states that FFXI has 32 gameworlds that can house 15k-20k users each. Granted, we only have the 24 gameworlds and the one test server--but if it's capable of supporting even just 15k per world, then we could theoritically go to over 7million users. Somehow I don't see MGSO reaching that level with just the PS3 platform support, so I SERIOUSLY doubt they have the infrastructure in place to support it.

Again, no confirmed hard numbers, purely speculation based on numbers that are supplied from another source (but, the 2008 number is confirmed by SE's own count). But...I think any reasonable person could draw the conclusion that SE's operation is just a weeeee bit bigger than Konami's. Especially if you throw in FFXIV and the Taito Corp. that is in the same building as well.

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Current image of the playerbase:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4008/kalcanmithras.jpg

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... i love that picture so much xD

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Originally Posted by Limecat

Current image of the playerbase:

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Thanks a great picture and in a odd way so true lol

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and about the MGS Online vs FFXI banter, just looked them up out of curiosity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Online
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XI


Granted, the articles are a bit dated, but there are some hard figures that prove a point that FFXI is likely a larger scled operation. MGSO had 1.3m subscribers in 2009. FFXI broke 2m in 2008. The article further states that FFXI has 32 gameworlds that can house 15k-20k users each. Granted, we only have the 24 gameworlds and the one test server--but if it's capable of supporting even just 15k per world, then we could theoritically go to over 7million users. Somehow I don't see MGSO reaching that level with just the PS3 platform support, so I SERIOUSLY doubt they have the infrastructure in place to support it.

Again, no confirmed hard numbers, purely speculation based on numbers that are supplied from another source (but, the 2008 number is confirmed by SE's own count). But...I think any reasonable person could draw the conclusion that SE's operation is just a weeeee bit bigger than Konami's. Especially if you throw in FFXIV and the Taito Corp. that is in the same building as well.

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Thanks Raist,

I was going to pull the wiki up as well. All i was trying to say id that because he plays the game & says they only have 2 servers in BS. No way 1+ million players on 2 servers. We have this confirmed by CoD MW2 when their servers crashed cause of this.

I do know that FFXI using more resources but if you even look at MGS website they state the shutdown to save power. (but decided 2 days was long enough to conserve?weird) the only thing I am/have been trying to get into his incredibly thick skull is that I stated my opinion, without blasting him in any form. He is a better person cause he is able flam someone for expressing their opinion. WOW he is going to go very far in his life. If he has such a hard time accepting the fact not everyone thinks like him then he is in for a rude awakening when he is jobless, homeless, wifeless & living in his parents basement playing FFXI and being an elitist.

But again I will never say anything to disrespect a person for his/her opinion. Just do not expect me to get attacked and sit here.

im calling in the debt you guys owe me... you may pay in gil, fish or kudos.

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im calling in the debt you guys owe me... you may pay in gil, fish or kudos.

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Ok not sure if Canada owes you or not but if we do I can pay you in Fish :)

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Originally Posted by Kraatos

well ladies gents and Nub ::::COUGH:::: night
love to stay n chat but gotta head to work ill come check out how bad yall burned Night with ur number tonight

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Hey Kraatos, can I be a nub?:cool: I wanna be a nub, please please please...
Aw man, i wanted to be a nub.... guess not..:p