Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

all none abyssea zones are pretty close to being bare
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AH is very low if not empty on alot of lower level gear
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it is hard to do almost anything outside of Abyssea, unless you level a job when you get to 30 (this is a new player problem)
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all three of these are hurting FFXI, and causing a dommino effect, that us effecting other areas of the game as well

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1. People only used 4 zones for leveling before abyssea
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2. AH was like that before abyssea
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3.Your only using your Eyeballs to make that incorrect statement
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Originally Posted by Mrbeansman

1. People only used 4 zones for leveling before abyssea
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I can think of at least 13 off of the top of my head.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I can think of at least 13 off of the top of my head.

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Abyssea has 9 + dunes, qufim, junglesx2 = 13

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I can think of at least 13 off of the top of my head.

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I'm sorry 4 zones regularly. Things like crawlers nest and quicksand caves don't count at this point.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I can think of at least 13 off of the top of my head.

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Before Abyssea =/= Before Treasures of Aht Urhgan.

Just because people weren't able to snag an East Ronfaure [S] camp and occasionally defaulted to shit-tier camps in Garlaige Citadel doesn't mean they were prime leveling spots.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Before Abyssea =/= Before Treasures of Aht Urhgan.

Just because people weren't able to snag an East Ronfaure [S] camp and occasionally defaulted to shit-tier camps in Garlaige Citadel doesn't mean they were prime leveling spots.

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The 13 was post TAU, pre-TAU is somewhere closer to 20.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

The 13 was post TAU, pre-TAU is somewhere closer to 20.

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I'd like this list. I'm legitimately curious as to what you're considering popularly utilized camps.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

I'd like this list. I'm legitimately curious as to what you're considering popularly utilized camps.

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Originally Posted by Mrbeansman

1. People only used 4 zones for leveling before abyssea
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First off he said leveling, not camps, so this would include Saruta/Ronfaure/Gustaburg. There's 3.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

First off he said leveling, not camps, so this would include Saruta/Ronfaure/Gustaburg. There's 3.

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Okay. I'm asking for a list that doesn't involve solo exp, because the "Problem" with Abyssea is that it prevents group EXP. What areas were people partying in en masse before Abyssea (but after all other previous Expansions/Updates, Abyssea MUST be the isolated cause) that people no longer party in?

Random camps that people went off to explore in on occasion don't count either, because people still do this post-Abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

First off he said leveling, not camps, so this would include Saruta/Ronfaure/Gustaburg. There's 3.

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Given that I may have been exaggerating a tad bit my point still stands other zones wont magically all be full by getting rid of abyssea leaching.