Cloudsplitter

I don't see how such results are possible. I can only assume they drank all the white-out in the SE office building before the testing, used 300 TP for all weapon skills involved rather than 100, and did not account for magic damage atma doing nothing for Beastmaster's normal melee hits.

The only way to produce those #'s in normal melee situations is to use Lion, Blinding horn, etc etc which gimps the hell out of your pet damage.....

I agree, the numbers seem unrealistic. All i can think of is that they used pandemonium warden's atma/ultimate/lion, an ascetics drink, 300 TP, and did it on WAR with Restraint up against a thunder weak mob. That might put it in the 4k range..

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Originally Posted by Keinn

I agree, the numbers seem unrealistic. All i can think of is that they used pandemonium warden's atma/ultimate/lion, an ascetics drink, 300 TP, and did it on WAR with Restraint up against a thunder weak mob. That might put it in the 4k range..

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You forgot /rdm with a blm and cor in the party /w an 11 in wizards roll vs qutrubs *cough*and a brew*cough*

Anyway using the magical power of google translate i have come to the conclusion that the entire post is bull s**t. There was no mention of gear, mods, target monsters. TP%, or atmas. It looked to me like "here are some fake looking numbers. iz good ws. k thxn bye".
2-3k rampages arnt the best a bst can average, and a war would surpass even that.

Ya'll remember that first cloudsplitter with your brand spanking new Farsha, and thinking "No, no wait, that's not right, I must be using the wrong gear" And then you pimp out your ws build, try again, and realize you're gonna be using rampage for the rest of your days?

You don't need to research it. It said primal rend was weaker than cloudsplitter. That's a blatant lie, primal rend is always stronger, in melee gear, in appropriate WS gear, with any appropriate atma set up. So no more research is necessary. I certainly hope it's a fake, cause otherwise the Devs must be playing a different version of the game than us.

It isnt fake, the original thread can be found here.

The dev reply is on the 2nd page, 6th post from the top.

There is a chance that I mistranslated it, though. My Japanese skill is very limited, and all derives from playing video games. If anyone is fluent in Japanese that can more accurately translate it, please do.

Well then, there's always the chance it just reads "We tested it on a cloud! It was split perfectly in two! We used each half as a pillow, one for the upper body and one for the lower body!"

I remain hopeful!

the flaw here is that while some wpns already had good ws's, they got crappier ones to aftermath with. while some who didnt have as good of ws's got great ones to aftermath with. the real fail here is the aftermath inbalance. while some weapons got good ws's to make them on par with other jobs, it seems SE didnt understand that by giving those ws's aftermath it put them above the ones that got crappier ws's to aftermath with.

lol think that makes sense

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It isnt fake, the original thread can be found here.

The dev reply is on the 2nd page, 6th post from the top.

There is a chance that I mistranslated it, though. My Japanese skill is very limited, and all derives from playing video games. If anyone is fluent in Japanese that can more accurately translate it, please do.

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What the hell game are they playing then? Just went outside jeuno and did each ws on the same cockatrice. 620~Cloudsplitter and 740~primal rend with the same gear for both WS's. (and since the farsha adds 7 STR and 7 MND, but no CHR, that's already giving an unfair advantage to cloudsplitter.)

In what game is cloudsplitter stronger? And in what game is it even possible to do a 4k cloudsplitter. Mine does 2k~ with full Matt gear, RDM sub, Lion/Blinding Horn/ baying moon, and an ascetics. Even if I had Lion/ultimate/Hell's Guardian and an 11 wizard roll with a BLM in the party, that's only 56% more damage, or 3.2k damage. 4k is not even possible.

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Originally Posted by Anucris

the flaw here is that while some wpns already had good ws's, they got crappier ones to aftermath with. while some who didnt have as good of ws's got great ones to aftermath with. the real fail here is the aftermath inbalance. while some weapons got good ws's to make them on par with other jobs, it seems SE didnt understand that by giving those ws's aftermath it put them above the ones that got crappier ws's to aftermath with.

lol think that makes sense

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No, even if the empyrian ws is inferior to previous weaponskills, it is always the best choice for every weapon when adding the aftermath, since the damage is usually only 1 or 2 aftermath triggers behind the best WS. Victory Smite with a verethegna is better than stringing pummel, even though stringing pummel does a little bit more damage, for example.

Every weapon that is, except farsha.