New 1 hours

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Originally Posted by nyheen

how about SE just cancel the new 1 hours if you people going to cry about it.

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This is actually a perfect benchmark for this. When a particular job is so annoyed by a change, even an addition, that they'd rather have nothing just so they don't have to be annoyed by seeing it in their list and remembering how stupid the change was, then you've gone wrong.

The beautiful irony in your statement is that there are probably quite a few RDM that would not care one bit if you canceled it because they'd rather keep their dignity than be given a ridiculous new ability.

It's like how many people feel about the iLvl system. They wanted the game to progress but if you gave them the choice between iLvl and NOTHING they'd choose NOTHING.

Note that as usual I have no stake in this either way so don't bother addressing it to me. I can't even play with the new toys unless I level up.

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Originally Posted by dasva

That's the thing. You and some people like you have pissed and moaned for months and months over people pissing and moaning at legitimate problems. The people you are bitching at don't care and the sooner you like catch on to that the better off you'll be.

Seriously seeing people bitching about bitching is just hilarious especially when the original complaints are over 9000% valid while the shut up and take it responses aren't

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You must be seriously confusing me with someone else tho. This is the 1st time I've ever spoke up about this because to be quite frank... it's gotten really old. The complaints can be as valid as you think or want it to be but don't you get tired of repeating the same shit over & over?

Also if anyone's to blame for the way RDM is now it's the load of idiots who so hardcore advocated RDM melee to begin with thinking that it might actually be something viable. I will admit that at least SMN got a damn good new SP vs what RDM got but hey considering SMN hasn't been thrown a bone *or a cait sith for that matter* in years I kinda thought RDM would get something also.

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Originally Posted by Bluestar2kx

Complaining all the time, esp the way the other poster was, is not solving the problem. Sure be vocal, and express a problem, it won't be solved otherwise. But complaining constantly to the annoyance of other posters is a problem in itself.

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Hit the nail right on the damn head.

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Originally Posted by Randnum

...if you gave them the choice between iLvl and NOTHING they'd choose NOTHING.

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If I could give you all the Likes for this, I would. There are often people who seem baffled by the fact that there are complaints when we are given new features, and this is the reason for it. If you were in a restaurant and were given a side order of excrement with your meal, and then told that you had to eat both items or neither, you would not be impressed.

W.r.t. there being too many complaints, the fault lies with SE for creating dodgey content and being deaf to feedback. I can appreciate that seeing endless complaints can be boring but people have invested a lot of time and emotion into this game and have a right to speak up when things go horribly wrong. Blatant budget and staffing redirection and a complete lack of understanding of the game are NOT the playerbases' fault, and if people don't call SE out on it then things will just keep getting worse.

I don't think complaining once and then ignoring the issue is going to get their attention - we have plenty of evidence that this doesn't work. Indeed, if every single post on this forum was a well structured and valid complaint I'm pretty sure they'd ignore the whole lot, or simply put the forums under indefinite maintenance. However, it's better than not trying at all.

I haven't tried many of them yet.

I love the new BST ability. They should have put this in as the first instead of Familiar.

The MNK ability might be nice if it lasted more than 30 seconds. Who needs a boost of HP that short lived?

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Originally Posted by SNK

You must be seriously confusing me with someone else tho. This is the 1st time I've ever spoke up about this because to be quite frank... it's gotten really old. The complaints can be as valid as you think or want it to be but don't you get tired of repeating the same shit over & over?

Also if anyone's to blame for the way RDM is now it's the load of idiots who so hardcore advocated RDM melee to begin with thinking that it might actually be something viable. I will admit that at least SMN got a damn good new SP vs what RDM got but hey considering SMN hasn't been thrown a bone *or a cait sith for that matter* in years I kinda thought RDM would get something also.

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Hit the nail right on the damn head.

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I agree, I wish they would just quit already.

Complaints are fine. We're customers, if we're dissatisfied with the product, we have the right to offer feedback in this forum which was designed for that.

What's NOT okay is the way complaints are delivered. Frankly, the vast majority of complaints are rude and abusive. Being dissatisfied with a product doesn't give you the right to be a jerk to the customer service reps.

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Originally Posted by SNK

SMN hasn't been thrown a bone *or a cait sith for that matter* in years I kinda thought RDM would get something also.

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Not sure I'd call another +250ish avatar mab and ilvl pets in the last few months months not thrown a bone

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

The MNK ability might be nice if it lasted more than 30 seconds. Who needs a boost of HP that short lived?

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I've read it gives you 100% counter rate as well

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

Complaints are fine. We're customers, if we're dissatisfied with the product, we have the right to offer feedback in this forum which was designed for that.

What's NOT okay is the way complaints are delivered. Frankly, the vast majority of complaints are rude and abusive. Being dissatisfied with a product doesn't give you the right to be a jerk to the customer service reps.

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While I agree in general that complaints should be presented in a better matter it's also somewhat understandable that when complaints are presented they are completely dismissed. Especially when the reasoning given is complete BS an at times in manners that sound rather patronizing. In short they are being jerks as well and while that doesn't justify anything it makes it somewhat understandable why people are so frustrated

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Originally Posted by dasva

While I agree in general that complaints should be presented in a better matter it's also somewhat understandable that when complaints are presented they are completely dismissed. Especially when the reasoning given is complete BS an at times in manners that sound rather patronizing. In short they are being jerks as well and while that doesn't justify anything it makes it somewhat understandable why people are so frustrated

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You may have a point, but some of the complaints by the users are so hateful and vitriolic that they should be ashamed of themselves. I also think that "we have heard your request, and the answer is no" is sometimes an acceptable response, but it is often treated as though it is never acceptable.