Add New Jobs to Relic Weapons - Past Due for an Explanation

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

More work, but higher quality result.

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That's the thing, there is No need for another type of weapon. there's already a relic weapon for each type of weapon. It makes no sense for there to be another relic dagger just exclusive to Dancer. Honestly it makes more sense to just give the relics to the job that's already there.

for example, a relic chakram makes no sense at all, unless it have stats that will entirely boost dancer up. Same with relic book (too tired to look up the actual spelling).

So, again, why make new relic weapons when the existing one is already there.

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That's the thing, there is No need for another type of weapon.

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There's no need for adding jobs to existing relic weapons either, but people are asking for it anyway.

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So, again, why make new relic weapons when the existing one is already there.

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Because new weapons would be better than tacking jobs onto old ones. New weapons could be made to better suit thew new jobs when in more than one case, the relic weapon doesn't really do much for the associated job. You'd really rather add SCH to claustrum than give it a weapon it might actually want?

A relic hoop for BLU DNC that gives new relic steps and spells (specific to each job, like how Shigeto bow only gives RACC for SAM)

A relic animator that gives new relic maneuvers.

A relic Grimore that gives new relic spells.

An item that makes stacks of relic bullets for COR that enhance all rolls and shots. Flavor text would describe it as a portable bullet swagger. Feed in a steel ingot and a firesand and get a stack of 99 relic bullets. Bullets could be used instead of cards for shots.

Update Gjallarhorn with new relic songs.

Give Aegis "Shield block: converts 30% of damage received into TP"

Nope, Mandau for Dancer sounds a lot better.

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Originally Posted by Juri_Licious

Nope, Mandau for Dancer sounds a lot better.

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Too bad, your not getting that.

I can't say crap like relic bullets and spells is a possible idea but Aside from that, adding newer jobs to relics is retarded, most of those jobs arent even going to benefit from old relics compared to empy weapons for those jobs, give me a point to a blu using excal over almace or a dnc using mandau over twash or a cor using annihilator over Armageddon, don't worry I'll wait. If you can't invest the time into an easily made/better weapon than why would you even ask for a relic, but sure plz let these newer jobs hold relics so we get more fun out of ppl using the wrong kinds Of equipment for their jobs and once they see they were better off with an empy, they will cry about how SE f'd it up somehow for them and demand fake unrealistic adjustments as they always do.

Annhilator completely destroys Armageddon in terms of lowering enmity generation.

Excalibur is already situationally more useful than Almace on high defense mobs.

Mandau's +35 attack and low delay with the boost to its hidden effect activation is reason enough to put it in the top ~3 daggers in the game.

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Originally Posted by Winrie

give me a point to a blu using excal over almace or a dnc using mandau over twash or a cor using annihilator over Armageddon, don't worry I'll wait.

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Your wait is over.

Annihilator - would be hot sauce on cor for mobs that resist WF which are more common than you would think.

Excal - would be extremely situational I imagine. Maybe it would be cool with a monster HP build?

Mandau - and twashtar are pretty competitive. Someone theory crafted that the 90 Mandau just barely beat out Twashtar because you didn't need to spam a low damage WS to get the relic triple damage procs and this was when the proc rate was 5% instead of 12%. Oh and the 95 version of mandau is about 100mil less than Twashtar.

Spharai - I'm no PUP but I imagine Stringing pummels from a +48d +35 att weapon might rip holes in the universe and with a new triple damage proc rate of 12% the ODD aftermath from VS might not be that big of an issue. The only down side is the higher delay. If someone feels like doing the math go ahead. Also you run into the 100mil cheaper level 95 weapon here too.

Clasutrum - lol staff DD. Moot point.

Economizer,
I LOVED your Mjollnir WHM comment about the SCH being on it and how Hell hath no fury than a White Mage scourned, it was 1.) the funniest thing I've heard in a long time and 2.) so very very true it spoke to my soul.

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Originally Posted by Winrie

I can't say crap like relic bullets and spells is a possible idea but Aside from that, adding newer jobs to relics is retarded, most of those jobs arent even going to benefit from old relics compared to empy weapons for those jobs, give me a point to a blu using excal over almace or a dnc using mandau over twash or a cor using annihilator over Armageddon, don't worry I'll wait.

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Correct me if I'm mistaken people, but hasn't SE indicated they will continue to improve on the relics? Depending entirely on how much, relics could become as powerful as Empys (which I would assume is their goal), in which case, there would obviously be a lot of reason for newer jobs to want to be included on them as well.