Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

Just like SE fixed SMN burns? SE is not going to go against the majority for the minority and german players. It goes to "Should I displease the majority and lose all of their money and settle for the smallest monthly gain possible and enforce "justice"? Or should I keep most people happy and not worry about the small money loss from the minority who isn't happy with people having a choice"?

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

Leeching is not Leveling, its cheating and thats why SE need to prohibide it.

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If it was cheating, don't you think SE would have put a stop to it by now? It has been this way for several months...

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

Well we do not care if you dislike the old way of expeing, it was and will be the only correct way, leeching never was correct and never will be and thats our statement and thats why SE will sooner or later raise the cap, whatever you say will not stop them.

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It is only incorrect to YOU. SE have said nothing, nada, zilch, zero to suggest otherwise - has anyone ever been warned or banned for leeching? Can you find me an SE quote stating that leeching is wrong? What do you think about Astral Burning? Protip: that's allowed as per SE rules and people disrupting it actually received disciplinary action.

SE set the cap at 30 and chose to both place a temporary exp cap on lower level players while allowing them to receive full exp from chests. The entire system is designed so lower levels begin with a penalty but can level that way - it's most likely completely intentional. The Dominion Ops actually scale to a minimum level, suggesting SE encourages the use of these methods for exping.

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I never had problems to get a party with any kind of job. So there must we have been the mistake by your way of play.

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75 cap BLM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/RNG/SMN/BLU/PUP/SCH had no problem at all getting invites? The only reason you'd typically take one of these jobs was because you lacked the favoured ones.

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You are just overstate the problems of old and only correct way of leveling.
Leeching is not Leveling, its cheating and thats why SE need to prohibide it.

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Again, only to you. SE have said nothing of the sort. Not only does it make you a complete idiot to assert a completely incorrect point like this, but it makes you something else - a poser.

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Originally Posted by Komori

Just like SE fixed SMN burns?

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SE fixed SMN burns by letting people go into abyssea at 30 and leech. xD

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

You care too much about exping!

Exping is just a means to an end, a process by which you can then play the meat of the content. If exping is a huge part of the game to you, you're just a level grinder. That's a perfectly valid way of playing, but for the sake of most of us who enjoy playing the game rather than grinding experience, do us a favour and stop trying to impose your views on us.

Thanks.

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Why do you think endgame is called endgame? Yes becouse you do it at the "End of the game" after alot of time of playing and leveling. Not: you enter the game play 2 weeks to Level 30 and go into Endgame Abyssea and get up to 90.
Anyways you can still do it, just without leeching jobs up, a entrance level 70 will make all resolved.
No more leeching and you can have fun in Abyssea, too bad if you dont have a job 70 then but thats life, thats why you need to play a while before you can reach endgame.

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

We dont do it becouse we are no poser, Leechers are posers.
And thats why you try to change the subject.
Becouse if we take everything away from your acc you got trough leeching there will not much be left.

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Actually I have never leeched. I just don't think that it's important to bitch and complain about raising the cap to try and make myself feel special.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, this thread is nothing more than lazy people complaining about lazy people. People who are too lazy to put together a party find themselves in parties with leeches. These same people bitch non stop in alli about it.

Simple solution: If you don't like the level 30 level restriction then start your own Abyssea groups and don't invite the level 30s. If you are too lazy to make your own party than shut the hell up about it.

Try an argument that doesn't use your own arbitrary definitions. Leeching is not cheating and there is no "proper" way to level. Choice is just that.

The game you want to play and the game 99% of other people enjoy playing are not the same game. You are the minority and should stop trying to impose your views on us.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Simple solution: If you don't like the level 30 level restriction then start your own Abyssea groups and don't invite the level 30s. If you are too lazy to make your own party than shut the hell up about it.

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But but how other people exp influences my gameplay so greatly! How dare people be able to enjoy all of the jobs they want to play?!

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Originally Posted by Komori

Just like SE fixed SMN burns? SE is not going to go against the majority for the minority and german players. It goes to "Should I displease the majority and lose all of their money and settle for the smallest monthly gain possible and enforce "justice"? Or should I keep most people happy and not worry about the small money loss from the minority who isn't happy with people having a choice"?

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And what makes you so sure that you are majority?
As i can see its only in the English forum 3-8 ppl yelling for constant level 30 Abyssea, sure the leechers yell mostly if it goes for loosing them fundation of playing.

The german Forum ist neraly all against leeching and a raise for the level, and thats around 20 players just in the forum.
On my server my whole LS is against leeching, and we got another 50 ppl.
And im sure that if SE makes a survey there will be enough responses, even i bet that the leechers then again will yell mostly becouse even they are only 10 they write more than 100 non-leechers, becouse it goes for them foundation.
We need no leechers into the game, gtfo the game.

Vote yes for Abyssea access above level 70!

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Actually I have never leeched. I just don't think that it's important to bitch and complain about raising the cap to try and make myself feel special.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, this thread is nothing more than lazy people complaining about lazy people. People who are too lazy to put together a party find themselves in parties with leeches. These same people bitch non stop in alli about it.

Simple solution: If you don't like the level 30 level restriction then start your own Abyssea groups and don't invite the level 30s. If you are too lazy to make your own party than shut the hell up about it.

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Vivik, i have no problem with finding pts, i have a problem with leechers, there is no place for them into the game.
And it hurt noone of the player who want to do abyssea if you raise the Access to level 70. It only hurts the Leechers, and you can only hit the right one in that bag.