Isn't Asura the Australia of FFXI though?
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Time to agree to disagree.
I am surprise there another thread about this, even more surprise how people generally look at it the wrong way, in term of time you going to spend on dyna relic and on empy is the same, to not say Empy is even more time consuming (specially if you take Chloris or Glavoid path).
The only reason there more empy then dynamis relic is because of the limitation of time you can spend in dynamis, lift off the time limit (2h) in dynamis, and trust me you would be able to do a relic in 1 week also.
This been discussed in other thread, but seem people just trying push more thread and talk about the same thing =P You guyz probably have better success to ask SE to remove the 2h limitation in dyna at this point.
For salavage is the same deal, exept!!! mythic you need way more then just alex, and that imo make them way more harder then empy and dyna relic.