I think I'm finished; a new player's final thoughts

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Originally Posted by Direct

What makes me laugh is we already farmed our af,dynamis gear se then release a new expansion and the playerbase laps it up that they have to go back to sky and old bcnms to to ilevel gear we already had, im sorry but se should be keeping us in the new zones not going back to do old fights we've already done.

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Would you build an extension on your house and then ignore every other room apart from the new one? I think it's good that content is spread across old and new areas. I don't think all new content should only be in new areas.

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Originally Posted by Direct

No the playerbase are a bunch of mugs who will do the same old crap over and over again, we have already farmed af, dynams gear and now people go crazy just to upgrade the same old crap.

Lets have more new gear with new designs, sure use the old zones sky etc but give us new stuff not the same old crap with new stats that the playerbase fawn over.

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So... You're just gonna ignore the valid point about new gear that utilizes old content because... You're super lazy and don't want to do anything that's old?

I suppose then you should just not play FFXI... I mean... It's over ten years old! Nothing good comes from the past!
Better throw out every FF you have that isn't 14... Or I guess 13 since most of that trashy "game" is newer than 14.

And I guess that makes you the mug of mugs... Whatever that means... People are coffee containers?
Cause all you're doing is bitching while you do what you're complaining about.
No one is forcing you to reforge your AF sets.
If you don't want to, don't.

But it would be bad game design 101 to not integrate an expansion with the rest of the game.

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Originally Posted by Calatilla

Would you build an extension on your house and then ignore every other room apart from the new one? I think it's good that content is spread across old and new areas. I don't think all new content should only be in new areas.

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If they didn't already abuse it with all the reskins over WotG and abyssea then yeah you would have a point but they already over played that card.

its kinda depressing how hard it has become to get anything going during EU prime time. Cant even fill a 6 man PT for delve in the Shell, and if you shout there arent many options left :/

I dunno, i'm up at odd hours, and have even been getting random stuff like Legion done (some group was looking to clear it to get meteor/arise scrolls). Could just be a right time right place kinda thing, or maybe your server is slower than Shiva.

Anyway, I do kind of agree with the same old crap sentiment, to an extent. Yes, it's nice for cosmetic purposes to upgrade the old gear, if you like the look of it. But a lot of people would rather have new, cool looking stuff and not just keep reusing the same stuff but updating the stats. At least we know we're staying at ilvl 119 for the forseeable future, so we are once again gaining more avialable sidegrades instead of purely a vertical treadmill.

I really like that they are upgrading AF, and honestly I would like them to upgrade some more items - if only because without that, people won't do the old content at all... and the new content is either boring or impossible to complete for me at the moment. I dunno, I also really liked having a lot of different items to choose from that were half decent for my char - from different events, so if I (say) wasn't good enough to do NNI, I could aim for Toci's harness vs the thaujmas. Yes, thaujamas are better, but I had something to work towards.

Right now there isn't a lot for me since I am locked out of relic/AF upgrades by lack of COP completion and while yes, I could work on COP completion that is not really fun at all for me so it certainly does not encourage me to log in... so basically there is WKR and Skirmish ... those are only two things I can do to improve my gear now, and I have most skirmish base peices now and almost everything I want from WKR (and people almost never do WKR anymore)

Basically, I'm saying if they either don't stop blocking me from working on AF/relic cause COP completion - or start adding new events or upgrading more old items (without cock blocking or at least without cock blocking that forces me to do tedious things solo) - I really won't have any reason to log in because there will be no more attainable upgrades for my character

Who do you try to do NNI with? Just got the KI my self on Sunday in a MNKx2, blu, WHMx2 n a mule with mostly skirmish v1 gear.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

Who do you try to do NNI with? Just got the KI my self on Sunday in a MNKx2, blu, WHMx2 n a mule with mostly skirmish v1 gear.

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I haven't tried it recently. I don't have any interest in most non ilevel gear

Ahh. We only did it for one of our mnks that just recently switched to the PC version of the game and needed the body that supposedly is the best tp top even though it's not ilv.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

Ahh. We only did it for one of our mnks that just recently switched to the PC version of the game and needed the body that supposedly is the best tp top even though it's not ilv.

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Yeah it is a good top, but given my playtime it isn't really worth my time trying to beg several folks to do the run with me. If I was going to beg people to do any nyzul it would be NQ nyzul since otherwise I will never get stringing pummel...

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Originally Posted by Afania

Walking, running, watch CS, make friends so you can do content, buying stuff and selling stuff, dealing with retards, grinding RME, it's all part of the gameplay. Something someone else enjoys.

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Well I am a little late to the party but wanted to comment on this.

First of all to the OP, I am shocked by how much you have been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time. Do you have any idea how long that would have taken to do years ago? In this respect, I think SE has done so much already to make the game more accessible (as you are requesting). Since you weren't around to see how it used to be, maybe you just don't realize this.

Myself I have been playing this game off and on for like 8 years, and I just resubbed this week after ~ 2 years away. I am VERY casual though, so I have not gotten very far in comparison to others. My highest job from the 75-cap-era is 63 PLD (I remember like the "lol turtle" kind of discussions, and Colibri PTs). I am only Sandy rank 5, have never completed CoP, never gone to Dynamis, etc etc. I was never really able to get into this content before due to the time commitments required. That being said I have like 59 DAYS in-game. Can you imagine that, especially in comparison to a modern MMO? 2 MONTHS of playing and I never even got all that close to the level cap. This is just a testament to the amount of content (fun) the game has to offer as you are on the journey towards the top.

What I have always loved about FFXI in comparison to other MMOs is just how sweet the rewards feel. Admittedly I haven't seen as much as a lot of you, but I do remember things like grinding out my Utsusemi: Ichi scroll and questing my PLD AF. If these goals are too easy, it just isn't anywhere near as exciting when you complete them. So in this way I think a little tedium can actually greatly enhance the experience, if that makes sense. Do you really think it would be as fun to have AF +1 if it was easy to get?

I LOVE the changes now, especially Trust NPCs and RoE, because they make it possible for me to go back and finally complete all these old objectives on my own time. I am really excited to progress more in CoP specifically. I guess there is a fine line between words like "hard" and "time consuming" and "easy." All I can say is I feel like the balance that exists now is pretty perfect. It is within my own power to slowly but surely progress on these goals. They are not too quick or easy, and so they are rewarding to complete, but at the same time at least it isn't so restrictive as it used to be. I can complete the content now, but it is still challenging enough for me to appreciate the rewards. Hopefully that makes sense to some of you.

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Originally Posted by Afania

Maybe someone else who haven't finish everything also enjoys it, and now you're asking SE to take it away from them too

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Yep this is me!

this is a sad thread on a sunken game

This thread was amusing.....